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Expensive, but this will accept eARC and can output a 2 channel PCM signal over optical. Supports HDR, Dolby Vision, etc. They also make an 8k one with VRR 120hz support.
Hmm, that sucks.
Maybe you could use one of this type of device:
https://amzn.eu/d/1FVzaZp
...to get the eARC signal from the TV,
convert it to a normal HDMI output -
then send this to any of those extractors.
Sounds fairly Frankenstein to me!
IMHO if you are trying to get sound from a tv, the correct tool for the job is an AVR; but each to their own.
Well in my case it’s already solved since I simply installed the custom firmware in my JDS Atom DAC.Hmm, that sucks.
Maybe you could use one of this type of device:
https://amzn.eu/d/1FVzaZp
...to get the eARC signal from the TV,
convert it to a normal HDMI output -
then send this to any of those extractors.
Sounds fairly Frankenstein to me!
IMHO if you are trying to get sound from a tv, the correct tool for the job is an AVR; but each to their own.
Most AVR:s seem to be overkill for 2-channel needs and they come in massive ugly boxes.
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Hmm, that sucks.
Maybe you could use one of this type of device:
https://amzn.eu/d/1FVzaZp
...to get the eARC signal from the TV,
convert it to a normal HDMI output -
then send this to any of those extractors.
Sounds fairly Frankenstein to me!
IMHO if you are trying to get sound from a tv, the correct tool for the job is an AVR; but each to their own.
That's still the type you put before the tv. You can tell because it only has hdmi in and out. Another tip off is the marketing explaining what video resolution it can handle (as it has to pass the video to the tv)
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what you would want is something like this. it has eARC/ARC in and optical and coaxial out.
eARC/ARC to Digital Audio Converter (DA41)
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If the tv manufactures all had decent optical out, or dacs had eARC/ARC in, you might not even need an AVR with a modern smart tv.
you would feed your cable box, cd/blu-ray player, game console etc into the tv and the tv would out put just the audio stream via optical or eARC/ARC to your dac. Your other digital devises would feed into the dac. whatever is down stream of the dac is up to you.
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Hello, first time poster here, so apologies in advance if I happen to not follow the rules.
I have been following this thread (and several others), but seems like there is no proper solution to the jitter issue in these LG TVs yet?
My setup: I have an LG C3. I am using a Loxjie A30 DAC that has an optical input, and its RCA + SW outputs are connected to speakers + a sub for a 2.1 setup.
I am getting audio cutouts when using the SPDIF output of the TV. I have even tried two eARC HDMI audio extractors (links below), taking the SPDIF output from the eARC audio extractor and connecting it to the optical input of the Loxjie DAC. While the cut outs are less frequent, they still occur.
Any suggestions to fix the cut outs are highly appreciated!
Note that I want to avoid spending money on a new AV receiver (it seems this would likely fix the issue, from what I gather).
These are eARC extractors I tried:
I have been following this thread (and several others), but seems like there is no proper solution to the jitter issue in these LG TVs yet?
My setup: I have an LG C3. I am using a Loxjie A30 DAC that has an optical input, and its RCA + SW outputs are connected to speakers + a sub for a 2.1 setup.
I am getting audio cutouts when using the SPDIF output of the TV. I have even tried two eARC HDMI audio extractors (links below), taking the SPDIF output from the eARC audio extractor and connecting it to the optical input of the Loxjie DAC. While the cut outs are less frequent, they still occur.
Any suggestions to fix the cut outs are highly appreciated!
Note that I want to avoid spending money on a new AV receiver (it seems this would likely fix the issue, from what I gather).
These are eARC extractors I tried:
Use analogue out from the TV or AVR. It's the only way to be sure
Just looked up the Loxjie - you might need an analogue to toslink converter...
There's millions of them - eg
Make sure you get analogue to digital and not the other way around.
Still has to get it into the loxjie which has no analogue input.
Use analogue out from the TV or AVR. It's the only way to be sure
Just looked up the Loxjie - you might need an analogue to toslink converter...
There's millions of them - eg
Make sure you get analogue to digital and not the other way around.
These newer TVs (my LG C3 included) for some frustrating reason don't have analog ouput ports, only digital (SPDIF or HDMI eARC/ARC).
When you say new avr - does that mean you have an old avr?
Didn't say new AVR, I don't have an AVR. I'm saying my LG TV doesn't have analog outputs at all!
You said you didn't want to get a new AVr. I hoped that meant you had an old one.
Have you tried bluetooth to the Loxjie?
Well I'm out of ideas - except the real kludge I was trying to avoid...Thank you for the detailed steps. I did try Bluetooth, and it works. But the latency
And also would prefer to keep things as lossless as possible!
Toslink to analogue followed by analogue to toslink. May still have unacceptable latency. Other than that, I think you are SOL.
formdissolve
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The analogue out on these LG tv's is usually a cheap headphone out and sounds hissy and noisy as all hell. I have an LG C9 and use that same Orei eARC extractor over coax with no dropouts anymore. My DAC allows for changes in PLL but I get no dropouts no matter what I have it set at.
Have you tried Coax on the Loxjie from the Orei? Coax cables can be bought for cheap (monoprice, etc).
Have you tried Coax on the Loxjie from the Orei? Coax cables can be bought for cheap (monoprice, etc).
...living with 81dB SINAD for movie and TV stuff can't be that bad. But of course that's a personal decision.
I have a 15 year old, 52 inch Samsung TV. The optical digital out fed directly into the integrated amp with DAC works. What doesn't work is to use the Roku advanced remote to control both TV on/off as well as volume control, since the remote seems to think all those should be controlled by the TV and it can not be trained to control the TV for simple on/off as well as the amplifier for volume. The whole remote control mess is so stupid... why the industry couldn't standardize all the basic stuff is beyond me.
Incidentally I have tested if I hear a difference between Spotify through the Roku and TV, vs directly in the IA, and can't hear a difference.
I have a 15 year old, 52 inch Samsung TV. The optical digital out fed directly into the integrated amp with DAC works. What doesn't work is to use the Roku advanced remote to control both TV on/off as well as volume control, since the remote seems to think all those should be controlled by the TV and it can not be trained to control the TV for simple on/off as well as the amplifier for volume. The whole remote control mess is so stupid... why the industry couldn't standardize all the basic stuff is beyond me.
Incidentally I have tested if I hear a difference between Spotify through the Roku and TV, vs directly in the IA, and can't hear a difference.
formdissolve
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Well the issue for me isn't the 81 SINAD, it's the fact that ESS-based DACs reject the horrible jitter from the optical out which causes dropouts of audio. It could happen once every minute or 10 times a minute which makes watching anything annoying at best and unbearable at worst.
Hmm, I haven't tried Coax (ever, actually). That's the only thing left to try, I'll give that a go! Just curious, any reason to assume it would work better than optical, technically speaking?
As an aside, it's great that your DAC allows PLL changes, you might know that the Loxjie doesn't. Unfortunately, their customer support is also non-responsive (the only email that they have listed on their website is [email protected], which doesn't respond).
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Unlikely. The coax is almost certainly an identical signal on different hardware.
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