Neumann KH150

[jhaider]

On one hand, oooh.

On the other, surprised it took them this long.

Maybe the 6.5/7" 2-way isn't the mainstay in studio audio that it is in home hifi? Either way, this might end up being a good "crossover" product for them if priced well.

 

[Rednaxela]

Suppose these would come at the same price point as Genelec 8340’s.

Then that would get you a speaker with similar driver sizes, and the option to apply EQ without the need for an additional measurement/connection kit. Is that correct?

If so, what would be reasons to expect them to be cheaper nonetheless?

 

[heraldo_jones]

On one hand, oooh.

On the other, surprised it took them this long.

Maybe the 6.5/7" 2-way isn't the mainstay in studio audio that it is in home hifi? Either way, this might end up being a good "crossover" product for them if priced well.

Most of the studio users tend to buy 6.5/7", only home studio users buy 5" or so.

 

[DJBonoBobo]

BTW, this was a kind of predecessor of the KH150 - the Klein & Hummel O200 (built between 2002 and 2006):

Georg Neumann GmbH - Professional Monitoring

 

[Pearljam5000]

It shouldn't cost a lot despite the DSP
It's the same old drivers, cabinet is the same, should cost as much as 8040

 

[thewas]

It shouldn't cost a lot despite the DSP
It's the same old drivers, cabinet is the same, should cost as much as 8040

Which same old drivers and cabinets are you talking about??? Its a completely new construction and bigger than the KH120 which is 5".

Also why should it cost less than the 8340 which is the Genelec DSP equivalent? I also hope it wouldn't cost more than the 8040 but that is more personal wishful thinking.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Which same old drivers and cabinets are you talking about??? Its a completely new construction and bigger than the KH120 which is 5".

Also why should it cost less than the 8340 which is the Genelec DSP equivalent? I also hope it wouldn't cost more than the 8040 but that is more personal wishful thinking.

Cabinet design is the same, just bigger, how hard is it to make? It's not something new from the ground up.
Tweeter is the same, woofer could be new.

 

[abdo123]

Cabinet design is the same, just bigger, how hard is it to make?

So every speaker in the world is the same for you?

Cause the only similarity this speaker has with the 120 is that it's a box with drivers in it.

 

[Slyman]

Damn excited by this. I've decided to buy the KH80+MA 1 as the first thing when i get a job and first salary and then later add the 750 sub. Depending on these i might be able to be sufficient without a sub or atleast use them quite a while before i gotta drop money for a sub (home music studio).

 

[thewas]

Cabinet design is the same, just bigger, how hard is it to make? It's not something new from the ground up.
Tweeter is the same, woofer could be new.

You don't just go to CAD and put a magnifying factor, waveguide will be different, ports will be different, internal bracing will be different, new moulding tools must be built. With your logic any product successor or extension shouldn't cost anything... Also woofer of course will be new as they don't have currently one in that range, possibly even the tweeter, or how do you know that it is definitely the same?

 

[Pearljam5000]

You don't just go to CAD and put a magnifying factor, waveguide will be different, ports will be different, internal bracing will be different, new moulding tools must be built. With your logic any product successor or extension shouldn't cost anything... Also woofer of course will be new as they don't have currently one in that range, possibly even the tweeter, or how do you know that it is definitely the same?

It looks the same

 

[mightycicadalord]

It looks the same

What a shockingly poor understanding of what is required to design and manufacture the cabinet.

How hard are they to make? Give it a shot yourself, see how far you get.

 

[thewas]

It looks the same

Seeing in a rough video a metal dome behind a mesh doesn't necessarily mean they are the same. Even if we had a look inside of the pure tweeters and they would look the same that wouldn't necessarily mean they have the same parameters or even engineering.

 

[Matias]

And I thought they were going to slowly add DSP to the entire range, now they have to add both DSP and AES the entire range.

 

[Pearljam5000]

What a shockingly poor understanding of what is required to design and manufacture the cabinet.

How hard are they to make? Give it a shot yourself, see how far you get.

Ok
But take the Genelec 8000 series for example
Are they all the same just different sizes? Basically yes
It's not an radical new design that's my basic point, it's an enlarged KH120

 

[FrantzM]

I am officially interested...
Very much so.

 

[Scgorg]

You don't just go to CAD and put a magnifying factor, waveguide will be different, ports will be different, internal bracing will be different, new moulding tools must be built. With your logic any product successor or extension shouldn't cost anything... Also woofer of course will be new as they don't have currently one in that range, possibly even the tweeter, or how do you know that it is definitely the same?

Agree on all points, but it's worth noting that Neumann, last I checked, use the same tweeter for all their models. Seems likely that it will be the same for this model. That tweeter really is excellent, and they probably get it for a very nice price considering the scale.

 

[FrantzM]

Ok
But take the Genelec 8000 series for example
Are they all the same just different sizes? Basically yes
It's not an radical new design that's my basic point, it's an enlarged KH120

We are all speculating ... True. You just take it to another level...

Peace

 

[mightycicadalord]

Ok
But take the Genelec 8000 series for example
Are they all the same just different sizes? Basically yes
It's not an radical new design that's my basic point, it's an enlarged KH120

I'll just reiterate, give it a shot and see how far you get. You make it sound like they hop in the 3d design program they used, and just selected a corner of the model and stretched it out to make a bigger speaker.

 

[thewas]

Agree on all points, but it's worth noting that Neumann, last I checked, use the same tweeter for all their models. Seems likely that it will be the same for this model. That tweeter really is excellent, and they probably get it for a very nice price considering the scale.

Yes, I know that it is currently the same one, although at some time the point will come they will replace it with a different one, may it be due to even better engineering/measurements or due to availability.