NAD C700 vs Wiim Ultra

[Jamesw72]

Question if I may..

Connected to my NAD c298, what would proved better performance?

Wiim Ultra > RCA > NAD C298

NAD C700 > Pre Out > NAD C298

I presume the Wiim as it has a better Dac but I thought I would ask to see what you guys think..

 

[michaelallencreative]

The c700 is an unbelievable dac and preamp for the money. The Wiim in all forms other than an optical streamer are awful. The Wiim ultra is a terrible dac. I've compare the c700 to the Pontus 2 12th and ares 2 . The c700 wins by a landslide. Use the c700. I've run it into many amps with absolute sonic bliss.

 

[Beave]

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[AdamG]

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I think this encompasses the general reaction.

 

[Jamesw72]

WiiM Ultra is a terrible Dac … are you sure

 

[Mort]

The NAD looks nice and is a lot more money, right? You are buying a whole second amplification system unecessarily.
I doubt you will hear a difference from the DAC/Streaming side. Go for cost and features.

If I were going to spend that money on a Streamer/DAC, I'd be looking at a MiniDSP Flex with a Wiim pro streamer.

 

[JeremyFife]

Hi,
I'll avoid the amusing start to this thread (not the OP question, that's fine)

What are you looking for as an improvement? Good streamer and DAC? Other connectivity?
Budget?

Your NAD C298 has balanced inputs, do you want to use those (WiiM doesn't have balanced output, might not matter)

Certainly no point in getting another Amp.

 

[michaelallencreative]

WiiM Ultra is a terrible Dac … are you sure

It sounds soulless. The nadc700 can be had now for around 799 since version 2 came out. Pretty reasonable for how it voices music.

 

[JeremyFife]

It sounds soulless. The nadc700 can be had now for around 799 since version 2 came out. Pretty reasonable for how it voices music.

Cool ... WiiM is ~£350, NAD C700 is £799 ... so a soul is approx. £449 ... that is reasonable!

 

[Godataloss]

It sounds soulless. The nadc700 can be had now for around 799 since version 2 came out. Pretty reasonable for how it voices music.

I believe the Wiim scored quite well on Amir's souls divination testing

 

[muslhead]

Cool ... WiiM is ~£350, NAD C700 is £799 ... so a soul is approx. £449 ... that is reasonable!

the grim reaper thinks so

 

[Mort]

I have always said souls are a buyers market.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

The c700 is an unbelievable dac and preamp for the money. The Wiim in all forms other than an optical streamer are awful. The Wiim ultra is a terrible dac. I've compare the c700 to the Pontus 2 12th and ares 2 . The c700 wins by a landslide. Use the c700. I've run it into many amps with absolute sonic bliss.

How did you confirm that this is truly the case and not a conclusion influenced by biased perception?

I’m also curious about what "soulless" might sound like and how the NAD C700 "voices" the music.

Question if I may..

Connected to my NAD c298, what would proved better performance?

Wiim Ultra > RCA > NAD C298

NAD C700 > Pre Out > NAD C298

I presume the Wiim as it has a better Dac but I thought I would ask to see what you guys think..

I would choose the Wiim Ultra primarily for its practical benefits, such as having DSP and basic room correction, in addition to being more affordable.

 

[michaelallencreative]

I believe the Wiim scored quite well on Amir's souls divination testing

Compare the c700 a

How did you confirm that this is truly the case and not a conclusion influenced by biased perception?

I’m also curious about what "soulless" might sound like and how the NAD C700 "voices" the music.



I would choose the Wiim Ultra primarily for its practical benefits, such as having DSP and basic room correction, in addition to being more affordable.

i own the Nad C700. Pontus 2 12th. LUMIN D2. MA352. Mc275 evo 100 power amp a topping d90se. The topping and wiim ultra are cold and lack a lot. Tons of detail yes. But they are voiced wrong. The c700 now for 799 is the ultimate buy for a dac preamp streamer for the price point.

 

[Jamesw72]

I think I’m going to wait until I see the reviews when the Bluesound Icon is launched .. would be interesting to see how this compares to the Wiim Ultra or shall I mention, compared to the NaD M66

 

[JeremyFife]

Compare the c700 a

i own the Nad C700. Pontus 2 12th. LUMIN D2. MA352. Mc275 evo 100 power amp a topping d90se. The topping and wiim ultra are cold and lack a lot. Tons of detail yes. But they are voiced wrong. The c700 now for 799 is the ultimate buy for a dac preamp streamer for the price point.

It's hard to engage with you, I don't really understand what you are trying to say;

The NAD is an integrated amplifier, different product entirely.
'cold', 'voicing', 'soul' are terms that just don't mean anything (in audio). Perhaps you mean they charge a signal's frequency response or add distortion... but we know that doesn't happen.

 

[Brian Hall]

Compare the c700 a

i own the Nad C700. Pontus 2 12th. LUMIN D2. MA352. Mc275 evo 100 power amp a topping d90se. The topping and wiim ultra are cold and lack a lot. Tons of detail yes. But they are voiced wrong. The c700 now for 799 is the ultimate buy for a dac preamp streamer for the price point.

I would never trust a company that bought the MQA scam assets.

 

[JustJones]

Compare the c700 a

i own the Nad C700. Pontus 2 12th. LUMIN D2. MA352. Mc275 evo 100 power amp a topping d90se. The topping and wiim ultra are cold and lack a lot. Tons of detail yes. But they are voiced wrong. The c700 now for 799 is the ultimate buy for a dac preamp streamer for the price point.

 

[michaelallencreative]

It's hard to engage with you, I don't really understand what you are trying to say;

The NAD is an integrated amplifier, different product entirely.
'cold', 'voicing', 'soul' are terms that just don't mean anything (in audio). Perhaps you mean they charge a signal's frequency response or add distortion... but we know that doesn't happen.

The Nad is a streamer and dac with an amp. It’s not just an integrated amp. Without using the amp part. It has sounded far better than the Denafrips offerings. And entirely destroyed the music experience of the WiiM ultra. The WiiM isn’t even close.

 

[Brian Hall]

The Nad is a streamer and dac with an amp. It’s not just an integrated amp. Without using the amp part. It has sounded far better than the Denafrips offerings. And entirely destroyed the music experience of the WiiM ultra. The WiiM isn’t even close.

This is not audiogon. No one is going agree with you. No point in trolling any more. The Wiim products measure well and sound great.