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I auditioned Dutch & Dutch 8c, and I have more questions now than before

The one thing I would never allow as part of a high quality music system is a general-purpose computer of any description. They are simply not built for audio and offer little protection from RFI, etc.

Really?, that’s gonna piss off so many music producers and studios when they find out.

The industry will never be the same again when they “Hear Here” the truth about computers.
 
The spec sheet and manual have not been updated in 4 years and 10 months?
The speakers specs haven’t changed since it’s introduction, it took a long time to develop D&Ds philosophy ( I believe) is to continually develop rather than introduce a model ‘2’.
Everything is there if you look, the room matching guide is particularly informative.
Keith
 
How were you planning on connecting a turn table and CD player to the 8c without using another box?
Well, a discrete phono stage is pretty much incontournable since new gear doesn't have dedicated phono inputs, so yes that's one box. My CD transport has an AES output.
 
Makes sense, turn table> phono stage > xlr > left/right speaker
CDP > AES3 > speaker > daisy chain other speaker. Or you can use a y cable but you need 2 termination plugs
 
Makes sense, turn table> phono stage > xlr > left/right speaker
CDP > AES3 > speaker > daisy chain other speaker. Or you can use a y cable but you need 2 termination plugs
How would you control volume with this setup? Is there a mixer app for the 8c?
 
The 8Cs have their own app with volume attenuation in fact all the speakers parameters are set via the Ascend app.
Keith
 
I can not agree with you to describe this as limited playback options.. (I also have a pair here, if that increases my authority ;))

Where do you put the CD in?

Edit: I now see it's a slot loading player. All good.

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I never understood why people want that much features in a speaker. Maybe I got a bad taste from the smart tech industry, but more features for me means a bigger possibility that the product will become unusable or obsolete in the future. Rather a speaker that focuses on its main priority: great sound.
 
but more features for me means a bigger possibility that the product will become unusable or obsolete in the future.

I think if you're buying a loudspeaker with DSP, a computer inside and a bunch of smps supplies and class d amplifiers, you aren't looking for longevity. You're looking for current SOTA, which by definition, isn't going to be SOTA in a few years anyway.

Buy them, use them, enjoy them and put them on the kerbside pickup when the apps are sunsetted, the company folds, the spare parts are gone and they no longer work. Get your money's worth while you can.
 
Yes I want the very best possible speaker now because I won’t live forever and I want to enjoy the finest reproduction while I still have some of my hearing left.
Keith
 
Yes I want the very best possible speaker now because I won’t live forever and I want to enjoy the finest reproduction while I still have some of my hearing left.
Keith
I feel your pain, but a bit more.
 
I think if you're buying a loudspeaker with DSP, a computer inside and a bunch of smps supplies and class d amplifiers, you aren't looking for longevity. You're looking for current SOTA, which by definition, isn't going to be SOTA in a few years anyway.

Buy them, use them, enjoy them and put them on the kerbside pickup when the apps are sunsetted, the company folds, the spare parts are gone and they no longer work. Get your money's worth while you can.

Companies like this should at least make sure most of the parts are made in-house, it's always a risk that some third-party manufacturers stop making crucial parts or stop existing tomorrow.
 
I think if you're buying a loudspeaker with DSP, a computer inside and a bunch of smps supplies and class d amplifiers, you aren't looking for longevity. You're looking for current SOTA, which by definition, isn't going to be SOTA in a few years anyway.

Buy them, use them, enjoy them and put them on the kerbside pickup when the apps are sunsetted, the company folds, the spare parts are gone and they no longer work. Get your money's worth while you can.

Yes, but your speaker probably still functions when the updates stop. Ofcourse when your product breaks and the company is gone you have a problem. I think the app even runs locally on the speakers or that is atleast an option with the 8cs. With other products for example when the app isnt supported anymore you have a problem, look at smart tv’s. Most homecinema enthousiast are asking for a highend dumb tv for ages now, so they could connect their own streamer.
 
Most homecinema enthousiast are asking for a highend dumb tv for ages now

Is that right? I'm not surprised. Our new TV has everything that opens and shuts in terms of apps, but I get frustrated and just plug the old HTPC into it when I actually want to be able to navigate, search for content, connect to my LAN/computers etc.
 
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