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How do the Dynaudio Emit M20 speakers measure?

thewas

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Extremely smooth and flat sound. They are far more neutral than some studio monitors in fact. Like JB LSR305/308 for example which I owned
I strongly doubt so, the measured smaller M10 is not really neutral on-axis nor and has directivity problems which are expected to be even worse on the larger midwoofer M20:
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(source: https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153)

The old LSR305/208 you mention measure on both regards smoother:

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(source: PDF from Sound & Recording magazine which was freely available at that time at Thomann and their German distributor)
and the here measured current JBL 305P MKII are not as linear on-axis but can be easily EQed due to their also smooth directivity.
 
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I don't know about M10. I have M20 right now:

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on-axis and 25-30 off-axis

This speaker is almost no need in EQ (exept some room modes in LF).

As far as I can remember DM 2/6 is different from DM 2/7 and inferior to it. I had both. May be the same case is with Emit series
 

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Your measurements of course don't look bad, but being room measurements also just give only a limited picture of the behaviour of your loudspeaker. But even there the directivity problems of the large midwoofer and tweeter without waveguide can be already be faintly observed above 1kHz.
That doesn't mean though that is a bad loudspeaker or it wouldn't sound nice, we are just discussing the objective/measurements side.
 
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but being room measurements also just give only a limited picture of the behaviour of your loudspeaker.
Yes but most important 'cause i listen my speakers in my room:). Check my Edifier 1280 measurements and compare it with what Amir had measured. Very similiar above 800-900hz...

tweeter without waveguide can be already be faintly observed above 1kHz
Just look at measurement scale ;). Deviation in 1-2Db is very good result
 

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I strongly doubt so, the measured smaller M10 is not really neutral on-axis nor and has directivity problems which are expected to be even worse on the larger midwoofer M20:
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(source: https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153)

The old LSR305/208 you mention measure on both regards smoother:

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(source: PDF from Sound & Recording magazine which was freely available at that time at Thomann and their German distributor)
and the here measured current JBL 305P MKII are not as linear on-axis but can be easily EQed due to their also smooth directivity.
Interesting. I wonder why the mkII versions regressed?
 
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Do you guys think that a pair of M20 for 400€ (brand new, 2 year warranty, etc.) is better than any newer speaker on that price range?

As examples around 400€ I have: Monitor Audio Bronze 100 and Monitor Audio Bronze 2; Wharfedale 11.2/12.2 (450€); ELAC Debut Reference DBR62 (475€). Do any of these is better that the M20? +50€ isn't a concern, but a pair of M20 for 400€ seems a very good deal. But as a newbie, wanted to confirm.
 
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Do you guys think that a pair of M20 for 400€ (brand new, 2 year warranty, etc.) is better than any newer speaker on that price range?

As examples around 400€ I have: Monitor Audio Bronze 100 and Monitor Audio Bronze 2; Wharfedale 11.2/12.2 (450€); ELAC Debut Reference DBR62 (475€). Do any of these is better that the M20? +50€ isn't a concern, but a pair of M20 for 400€ seems a very good deal. But as a newbie, wanted to confirm.
Yes, it's a great deal, go for it. Elac is pretty decent but the bass response is worse.
 

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In comparison with the Revels, Dyns have a polished sound that makes poor recordings sound better than they are and adds a little bit of same-ness across the board. Revels have wider dispersion and provide a more honest representation of all recordings.
I think that's a fair assessment of of the entry- to mid-level Dynaudios.

But I wouldn't say that's true of the Confidence line or Heritage Special.

My Heritage Specials are less forgiving on some borderline recordings than my Contour 20s were.
 
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Do you guys think that a pair of M20 for 400€ (brand new, 2 year warranty, etc.) is better than any newer speaker on that price range?
Great deal. Emit M20 are one of the best speakers in their price range. Flattest freaquensy response.
 
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Yes, it's a great deal, go for it. Elac is pretty decent but the bass response is worse.
Great deal. Emit M20 are one of the best speakers in their price range. Flattest freaquensy response.
Do you guys have any recommendations regarding amplifiers? My most listened genre would be hip-hop (80%) and then some soul, jazz and classic music. Will be using ALLO digione streamer (or the C338 chromecast option if that's the amp choice), and maybe try the topping e30 as the DAC, in case the amplifier's DAC isn't decent.

My other choices, as I said before were wharfedales 11.1/2 or 12.1/2 and the DBR62, probably with NAD C316BEE v2 or C338. Can also get my hands on Yamaha A-S501 or Marantz Pm5005. Rega io also an option, but not sure if I like the lack of digital connectivity, since I'm mostly going to listen through digital sources and I'm not planning on buying a turntable on a near future.
 

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Do you guys have any recommendations regarding amplifiers? My most listened genre would be hip-hop (80%) and then some soul, jazz and classic music..
The amplifier doesn't know what genre of music it is playing.

Power, current, distortion, noise, frequency response, etc, are what matter.
 
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Do you guys have any recommendations regarding amplifiers? My most listened genre would be hip-hop (80%) and then some soul, jazz and classic music. Will be using ALLO digione streamer (or the C338 chromecast option if that's the amp choice), and maybe try the topping e30 as the DAC, in case the amplifier's DAC isn't decent.

My other choices, as I said before were wharfedales 11.1/2 or 12.1/2 and the DBR62, probably with NAD C316BEE v2 or C338. Can also get my hands on Yamaha A-S501 or Marantz Pm5005. Rega io also an option, but not sure if I like the lack of digital connectivity, since I'm mostly going to listen through digital sources and I'm not planning on buying a turntable on a near future.
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/powe...wer-amplifier-ncore-2x125w-4-ohm-p-12756.html
 
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