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Thank you very much. I see now my mistakes an figured out how to correct them.You don't have the right EQ that Amir provided. It should look like this:

Thank you very much. I see now my mistakes an figured out how to correct them.You don't have the right EQ that Amir provided. It should look like this:
Typo on my partThank you very much. I see now my mistakes an figured out how to correct them.What i dont understand is how Amirs preamp of -3,4 translates to -3?
Very helpful. Thank you very much!Typo on my part
You don't have the right EQ that Amir provided. It should look like this:
Yes. I have to admit. Have not tried the correct setting. But what I tried is the AutoEQ setting for the HD560s. And to my untrained and faulty ears it sounded worse with oratory or crinacle setting. And there was at least on my M11 a strong and easy to recognize difference.Expectation bias strikes again.
People are entitled to their personal priorities. Any proof that headphone lovers are a majority? You can't go be the relative number of such reviews because headphone are relatively cheap & easy to ship to Amir.You are in the minority here. His headphone reviews are by far my favorite, and I heavily await the Arya review with baited breath (as they are my main headphones).
Yes. I have to admit. Have not tried the correct setting. But what I tried is the AutoEQ setting for the HD560s. And to my untrained and faulty ears it sounded worse with oratory or crinacle setting. And there was at least on my M11 a strong and easy to recognize difference.
Now I tested. And I am pretty sure I dont have to think about EQ anymore. Because audio-philistine that I am I couldn’t detect a difference between my totally wrong setting and Amirs correct setting. I could easily hear the difference between with and without EQ. But I think it is just because of the -3.4 preamp.![]()
I don't like the AutoEq settings either, but Amir's I usually like. I think they go too much overboard with unnecessary filters.
As far as comparisons, you should set the preamp separately and then turn EQ on and off to compare more accurately. Then once you are done set the preamp back on the EQ. Also it helps to look at the spectrum analyzer and pay attention to content that hits the EQ'd area heavily.
If using an Oratory EQ then use his filters he lists in his pdf rather than AutoEQ filters, as @dorirod said Auto EQ goes overboard with the EQ and doesn't apply them intelligently in some circumstances. Oratory's EQ's are here:Yes. I have to admit. Have not tried the correct setting. But what I tried is the AutoEQ setting for the HD560s. And to my untrained and faulty ears it sounded worse with oratory or crinacle setting. And there was at least on my M11 a strong and easy to recognize difference.
Now I tested. And I am pretty sure I dont have to think about EQ anymore. Because audio-philistine that I am I couldn’t detect a difference between my totally wrong setting and Amirs correct setting. I could easily hear the difference between with and without EQ. But I think it is just because of the -3.4 preamp.![]()
I like them very much. And easy to drive. I like my music very loud and even my Xperia 5 II does the jobOn a seperate point, you got the HD560s too........me too, nice headphone, my joint favourite headphone at the moment.
Question to all: Are impulse response tests done at a particular frequency?
Dear Amir, your review are of great value to ASR community and for the customer in general since manufacturers are starting to submit you their products.Yes but it is a very cumbersome process so I rather not do it unless I have to.![]()
To import this PEQ profile into 'Equalizer APO', use:
Otherwise, see my PEQ guide.
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For those who don't have PEQ-capable app, and want to use GEQs instead:
See my GEQ guide for 10-band, 31-band, and 127-band GEQ profiles.
I did that early on with the original audeze LCD-X.I think it would be of value if one day you will re-measure back both speakers and headphones that have such behavior, not ok without EQ, recommended with EQ.
It will show beyond any opinion how EQ is impacting end results and the power of DSP in a optimal sound reproduction hifi system.
Exciting! When do you think will that review be published? I'm about to pull the trigger on the 400i, but might as well wait for the measurements of the 400se.One is here for testing.![]()
For those who haven't noticed, oratory1990 has updated HE400i 2020 EQ, update from 19th of August 2021.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ld9y8k3r67ikujw/Hifiman HE400i (2020).pdf?dl=0
Thanks for the reminder, I have in fact not noticed yet (I got a good deal on these headphones so I pulled the trigger last week).
I A/B'd the two presets with the limited volume my iphone is able to generate into these headphones and tbh, there is almost no audible difference. The changes to the 5khz region are audible in distorted guitars, but I only hear it when I switch to the new preset, not if I switch to the old one (boost is noticable, cut isn't) and ofc I have to pay close attention to it.
I thought I had the impression that I could hear a difference from the new points around 500Hz with orchestra music, but came to the conclusion that my mind was playing tricks on me. This is with the preamp on -20db on my iphone thou, so really not loud. My Topping L30 is supposed to arrive tomorrow!
I'm pretty happy with the headphones so far. Top-end isn't quite as refined as on my speakers, but overall they sound really good. I changed Oratory's 10k high shelf from +0,5db to +2db, which got the headphones a bit closer to my speakers (flat to 30k with an AMT and full dsp with active crossovers), but the 'excitement' from the absolute clarity is still lacking. If I boost it more it just gets too bright. I considered the Sundaras for that reason, but I feel like that would be a waste for me, as I mainly still use speakers.
Comfort is good, but I wished the headband pad was a bit softer. I read it softens over time, which I'm starting to feel already (or my head is just getting used to the feeling; I haven't been a headphones guy before but my new living conditions called for a change), but I might still get some extra padding on there.
I like these more than my HD650 (which I have from the studio but never use), but have yet to do a direct comparison.