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HiFi and mental well-being

My HiFi hobby affects my mental well-being:

  • In a largely positive way because of the pleasure it brings

    Votes: 52 69.3%
  • In a largely negative way because of the stress it brings

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • In a positive or negative way depending on circumstances

    Votes: 22 29.3%

  • Total voters
    75

CapMan

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Interested to hear how this hobby affects others’ mental well being . I was on an upgrade merry go round for years and was constantly tweaking. I understand myself a little better now and realise this change typically coincides with periods of unhappiness at work or when I am stressed. It becomes a kind of distraction.

Hope people feel they can share .
 
This or that higher measured spec or glowing review is bound to trigger one's upgraditis.

Over time one can learn to overcome upgraditis and be happy with and enjoy music rather than always wondering if this and that could be improved leading to more enjoyment.
That upgraditis path is everlasting and a very important part of hifi equipment sales.

Buying things because it (shortly) makes one feel good/better is not the right thing to do either but good for the economy.
 
I may have taken a somewhat different route from others. I never felt any particular fondness for much so called 'hi-fi' equipment, at least speakers, so much of it was all tizz and boom, as far as I am concerned - not what I would consider hi-fidelity.

Anyhow, I have the opposite problem to the one you describe. I have a relatively cheap pair of speakers that I can't seem to upgrade in that, for all their flaws (some of which are certainly bested by other speakers), they have a certain correctness to the sound that has not been surpassed by anything I have heard (that I can afford), including some speakers costing many times more.

I'd like to 'upgrade', but I can't and I'm having real difficulty finding out what I would consider an upgrade without having to lay down cash that will then be lost if what I buy is not to taste.

Maybe I should be grateful, who knows?
 
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I have relatively severe anxiety and panic disorder. I also suspect I have ADHD. Playing music calms me down and brings me joy. Records slow me down even more and allow me to focus on the music without thinking of what to play next. I do spend a lot of time obsessing over gear though. Probably too much.
 
Playing music calms me down and brings me joy. Records slow me down even more and allow me to focus on the music without thinking of what to play next.
It’s good to hear you found a way calm your mind and enjoy the music. Take care .
 
One of the blessings I've had from my career is that any tendency to upgraditis was roundly squashed in my early years by more experienced engineers who taught me what's a real upgrade (actually very little) and what's unnecessary, a sideways move at best, or actually worse. Consequently, I've been happy with what I've had since my mid '20s, now almost 50 years ago.
Stuff has been replaced when something genuinely better came along, like CD, or loudspeakers from my student DIY efforts through Hecos, IMFs, Meridians and my current DIY active B&Ws. Everything in my current system is some 30+ years old or more recent DIY, and I don't feel any need or desire to change.

What I do constantly look for is new music, i.e. music that's new to me, composers I may have neglected, Jazz singers I hadn't come across before, that's where the excitement of the new comes from for me.

S.
 
I went through a long period where I couldn't get things sounding right to me no matter what I did. I spent a couple of grand replacing everything including speakers, and still no joy.

That did stress me quite a bit as I love music and rely on my hi-fi system to provide a bit of pleasure in life and it really did sound dreadful. Dull. muddy, shut in sound. With all the chopping and changing trying to sort it the whole set up was a mess with cables and boxes everywhere so even though I had pretty much given up on it, when I was at a loose end one day I tidied it all up, and cleared away all the unused cables and equipment, just so it wasn't an eyesore.

When I switched it all on again the problem was gone. I still have no idea what the cause was or even what it might have been.

Otherwise, if I'm happy with the sound, I just listen to music. I've no real interest in trying to make it any better than it is already, and I certainly don't worry about that. It's good enough for me, in fact it exceeds my expectations. I never wanted to be one of those people who is always changing equipment and trying tweaks. Always just a means to an end for me.
 
Interested to hear how this hobby affects others’ mental well being . I was on an upgrade merry go round for years and was constantly tweaking. I understand myself a little better now and realise this change typically coincides with periods of unhappiness at work or when I am stressed. It becomes a kind of distraction.

Hope people feel they can share .

This could have perfectly described me in the past also.
 
What I do constantly look for is new music, i.e. music that's new to me, composers I may have neglected, Jazz singers I hadn't come across before, that's where the excitement of the new comes from for me.
Roon and Roon Radio has been a great help to me in this regard - just let the playlist algorithm take you on a journey!

I realise now that the gear I have could probably be replaced with something cheaper without loss of enjoyment or fidelity , but it’s sunk cost so I’ll hang onto it. This site has been really helpful in removing any need to change cables!
 
I've felt through most of my career that I could live without 'the gear' (yeah, because I was playing with it all at work), but I CANNOT live without some music in my life, however reproduced! retirement looming in a very few months, I've been in a bit of turmoil really as regards the future direction of my sound system(s). I tried going six months without a music system once many years ago and it drove me mad (more mad than I usually am!).

In recent years, I was becoming increasingly disenchanted with the 'sound' of my system (main one especially) and becoming more and more depressed, moaning about the 'Thunderbox' speakers and the boom-with-tinsel I was hearing from friends' smaller speakers (which usually had a crossover dip engineered in). I felt awful as I wasn't enjoying the music any more and dreading selling it all off, as the revenue would almost certainly be diverted elsewhere in the household (are JBL 305's really that crude as possible cheap replacement?). After much 'kicking and screaming into submission' and all but dragged to the audiologist by my ever patioent better half (I know well the joke about husbands not 'hearing' their wives) I finally got me lugs measured and the penny dropped - it wasn't the gear so much as my hearing that was defective. At least now with 'aids I can happily live with the two stereos here which have returned to being 'tools' to reproduce the music I love so much, the telly is now clear as a bell and diction of mumbling actors not as inaccessible as before. I've started looking forward to playing music on the HiFi again, the need for alternative boxes now limited to shape and size to fit on the space rather than a need for a 'better' performance.

OK, it means I can't ever again really comment on hearing a new or different speaker unless a known reference is there with which to compare, but that doesn't matter now (why I favour detailed measurements to help build a 'picture' of a product). My local 'audio salon' is planning another local 'HiFi Show' I understand and it'll be interesting to see if the aids are noticed and what kind of sarcastic/humorous reaction I'll get (it's fun returning what's left of my barnet into semi-hippy mode so partially hiding the aids behind my ears, compared to the cloned shorn/scalped-sheep look that's commonplace around these parts these days).

So back to the OP. MUSIC is a life need here, but the gear far less so nowadays... A bit like petrolheads who really need to learn to drive properly first, realising thereafter that 'roadcraft' can be more important than the fancy 'p***s extension life crisis tin box' they're sitting in and operating :D
 
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I understand myself a little better now and realise this change typically coincides with periods of unhappiness at work or when I am stressed.
Very recognisable. Thank you so much for sharing this.

With audio I’m more of a reader and a thinker than a tweaker or an upgrader. But the obsessiveness is probably the same as well as the triggers.

Every once in a while I find it showing through in my online audio forum behaviour. After almost 25 years into the hobby I tend to recognise the signs a bit better and I find myself more able to pull out in time or not enter at all. But a relapse is always around the corner.

For what it’s worth, what helps me is the realisation that sorry is not the hardest word. Same for thanks. And that only my constructive or more lighthearted contributions have a chance of being worth reading back by total strangers later on.
 
The only thing that affects my upgraditis is speakers, but then in diy form. I've build almost all my speakers myself and try to do better each time. Amps and electronics tend to be used untill they break down. What is the case is that i now live in a relative big house compared to my old small appartment in the city. So i need a setup in each room at least. That makes me buy more amps and build more speakers.

But my 10 years old Marantz PM5004 is still in use. it's precestor (an old Sony integrated amp from the late 80's) died in action (beyond repair). My good old trusted Goodman Mezzo SL's, once and longtime my main speakers are also stil in use in other spaces. My tube amp is also not the latest series, it's an old series but it does what it needs to do so no need for replacement. And my vintage Luxman preamplifier, that seems to be collectible and go for high prices second hand will soon be sold and replaced by a diy model (build is in progress, design is known and tested) that is not that fashionable, but will sound better i think. It surely will be a lot cheaper. I sold some stuff that i did not like (the Project Debut Carbon DC turntable, some old class D amps and an tascam inteface), but the replacement for my turntable (a second hand but mint Technics SL1500 MKI) and interface (a DacMagic 100) was not more expensive, it was cheaper...

The only thing i think i will buy in the near future are some more integrated amplifiers, as some rooms lack an amp. And maybe replace my dac in my main system with a Topping and put that dac in an other system that does not have one yet (so i use the line out of my laptop, which is crappy). And building more speakers will also happen for diy-fun reasons. But for the rest i got everything i need i think.

But i see in my envirroment that a lot of people's ego's depend on their system, and that they always want the latest, best and most impressive ones. It's sad that they need that to feel a bit secure. But the same happens with cars, clothes, ...
 
The time that will become negative a not very environmental-friendly bonfire will emerge in my back-yard :p
Seriously now,it's only a hobby,and as long we have come to know what's audible everything can be fine.
 
I fear that REW and room measurement has now become a surrogate for box swapping and tweaking for me.

Endless measurements and infinite combinations of crossover settings, delays, PEQ and house curves - the upside being that the only expense / investment needed is my time
 
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I fear that REW and room measurement has now become a surrogate for box swapping and tweaking for me.

Endless measurements and infinite combinations of crossover settings, delays, PEQ and house curves - the upside being that the only expense / investment needed is my time
Much the same here.

Since the MiniDSP Flex came out I've kept thinking of getting one to replace the MiniDSP DDRC24 in my lounge. Also kept looking at better amps.

Though my tinkering with REW etc., especially now I've learned so much more recently, has dissuaded me.

I can make very noticeable improvements in sound simply by adjusting settings. I suspect that any new kit would make very little difference in comparison. :)

And as I'm retired I have plenty of time which needs occupying.
 
So back to the OP. MUSIC is a life need here, but the gear far less so nowadays...

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Just be happy. You can't own lots of things in your life.
Reminds me of a Steve Wright quote: You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
 
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