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Genelec G2 (8020) measurements
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AnalogSteph
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Specs like power consumption seem more in line with the 8020D. So they may have been updated once.
Bought a secondhand pair of 8020B in good condition about 8 months ago, still having trouble warming up to them, very used to my HS5.
Something is odd about the lowend on the 8020, they have substantially more bass than the HS5 but dont go as low, and this seems to create some confusion in the low mids. Wind up with a mix with a low end very tailored to the speakers and the low mid stripped out. Not sure if I can get used to this.
They have a ton of depth and detail, I can get used to that, maybe a larger size speaker from genelec would be better. 8020 reveal space in my mix that can be filled out, that I thought I didn't have on HS5. They do contrast well with HS5 on a monitor switcher to keep things in check, but overall things done on HS5 translate better to 8020 than the other way around for me thus far. Hard to compete with like a decade on HS5 though.
Something is odd about the lowend on the 8020, they have substantially more bass than the HS5 but dont go as low, and this seems to create some confusion in the low mids. Wind up with a mix with a low end very tailored to the speakers and the low mid stripped out. Not sure if I can get used to this.
They have a ton of depth and detail, I can get used to that, maybe a larger size speaker from genelec would be better. 8020 reveal space in my mix that can be filled out, that I thought I didn't have on HS5. They do contrast well with HS5 on a monitor switcher to keep things in check, but overall things done on HS5 translate better to 8020 than the other way around for me thus far. Hard to compete with like a decade on HS5 though.
8020D with RCA instead of XLR. I would get the 8020D with XLR and some adapters for 10€, then you have both options.
You need to get a measurement microphone to debug such things.
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Does the G2/8020D have the same high amounts of harmonic distortion in the <200hz region like the 8010a has? Or is it improved?
Can't find the measurements just yet, but it's improved on account of the slightly larger midbase driver area, but by no means is it perfect.
I think in terms of fidelity the 8030 are the king, but to me size is important too so i made my choice for the 8020D (they where cheaper than the G2, even if you add the RCA to XLR adapter).
I have mine mounted left and right from the display. Bought some cheap monitor-arms, once i widened their 75mm VESA plate holes to maybe 7.5mm, they matched the Genelec holes. Saved me 80€ for the Genelec VESA adapter plates.
I have not measured them, but I had compared the 3 first sizes and at this moment I have the two biggest on my living room: 8010, 8020 and 8030. Distortion on 8010 bass region is noticeable, at some level, didn’t realize any distortion on the 8020 or the 8030.
8030 is the flatter of both them (by comparing measurements, Amir had reviewed only the 8030 but I saw anywhere the 8020 and has some irregularities but not so bad at all).
G2 has no balanced input and has no gain knob (you have a switch for by default sensitivity and -10 dB option). Is more expensive for some reason, black instead grey. Otherwise is the same inside than 8020, I talked directly with Genelec.
My choice is the 8020 with 7040 sub, after thinking 100 times and exhausting Thomann’s 30 days money back period.
8030 is very transparent, but I find 8020 more funny and the room acoustics is better on reflective and small room, and quite linear also. A slight protrusion at bass region that make it a little more rhythmic without bothering, to my ears. Another on low highs, at least on my room, again I can live with it.
If you want to use it to mix or editing, go to 8030 without doubt, better FQR and goes lower.
To listen and move it a lot, the 8020 fits very well anywhere you want, for me is surprisingly good for the size and price. Of course that is an opinion, cannot offer measurements.
@Miguelón - really appreciate your analytical comparison between G2 and G3. Could you explain the difference between these two in a bit more detail. I'm interested in a 2.1 music system for my living room and a pair of G2 with a subwoofer seems like the ideal solution.
However, would you have considered the G3 for yourself?
However, would you have considered the G3 for yourself?
G3 is the speakers I get finally!
After the 101 reflexion, I returned G2 and bought G3 instead. Probably I’m on the blacklist of Thomann and Finnish Desing shop (the latest is the principal dealer in Europe of G series, in Spain is barely impossible to by one. Fortunately sending cost is free)
Well, G3 sound fantastic with the RCA connection, I bought a WiiM Ultra and the set with G3 is simple, nice and clean. Also relatively cheaper given the amount of functionalities of WiiM Ultra.
Once corrected a couple of issues on the bass that G3/8030C has just because they go lower on this region, it became evident that the 5 inch version was noticeably superior.
My last comment was motivated by listening without room correction (just a couple of modes, nothing more). Since 8020 / G2 drops earlier down in the low end, they sounded subjectively cleaner to my ears in my listening position.
I think G3 or 8030C worths totally the extra money (is not a lot), very compact to they range and extremely transparent. I cannot stop listening to them, except when my neighbors tell me is enough…
Like you, I'm using a Wiim Ultra and after reading about your experience, I think I will go for the G3 speakers with a good 12" active sub. Did you run room correction within the Wiim Ultra?G3 is the speakers I get finally!
After the 101 reflexion, I returned G2 and bought G3 instead. Probably I’m on the blacklist of Thomann and Finnish Desing shop (the latest is the principal dealer in Europe of G series, in Spain is barely impossible to by one. Fortunately sending cost is free)
Well, G3 sound fantastic with the RCA connection, I bought a WiiM Ultra and the set with G3 is simple, nice and clean. Also relatively cheaper given the amount of functionalities of WiiM Ultra.
Once corrected a couple of issues on the bass that G3/8030C has just because they go lower on this region, it became evident that the 5 inch version was noticeably superior.
My last comment was motivated by listening without room correction (just a couple of modes, nothing more). Since 8020 / G2 drops earlier down in the low end, they sounded subjectively cleaner to my ears in my listening position.
I think G3 or 8030C worths totally the extra money (is not a lot), very compact to they range and extremely transparent. I cannot stop listening to them, except when my neighbors tell me is enough…
Haha - that is definitely a good sign.
Yep, it tried to correct everything at same time and collapsed the 10 bands
Another member make suggestions on limiting equalization, more expert than me:
Band correction < 400 Hz
Gain under 0 dB
Q value < 5
Original WiiM corrections.
What I’m using now at the moment I write, listening to a lovely disc with Karl Richter conducting Münchener Bach Orchestra and Chorus interpreting Bach’s Eastern Cantatas. Sound so good…
The 350Hz correction I let it from time to time, it doesn’t bothers but I’m nor convinced I need it.
It looks like so;
I’m actually not using subwoofer; has to wait until my account recovers from the G Threes, WiiM Ultra and the floor stands with the base for isopods (about 150€ each stand).
An 8 inch sub should be enough for my music preferences, even I’m considering F One or 7040 even they are advised from Genelec only to 8020 or 8010.
But since I listen usually on 70-75 dB average, I think the 100 dB of both mini subs can be enough to me.
Am I wrong perhaps? I haven no experience on subwoofers
From what I've read, the F series subs are very well integrated. However, with the G3, you'd be better off with the F2. However for the same price, one could get a good third party 10" or 12" sub. The lows really make a nice difference to the music listening experience.
But I really will hear under 30 Hz? Other function of the subwoofer and monitors will be connecting to my piano, and the lowest key is 27,5 Hz.
I’m not sure I perceived more the harmonics than the fundamental on this note…
I guess you have a valid point, most music goes down to about 30Hz depending on genre. I love base so I guess it all depends on personal preference.
Do you know about my doubt?
F Two is quite expensive, and probably don’t need to go as deep as 30 Hz (really till 40 Hz I will be fine). But I can make an extra effort and go for it.
Since F One is cheaper and goes on my desired region, my question concerns more on the SPL side.
G threes have 104 dB SPL (107-110 as a pair), and I use only 70-75 dB on average. Since transients can go to 20 dB up, I’m using then 90-95 dB short term SPL (pair).
So it seems to be no problem with the 100 dB SPL max of the F One, but I’m not sure if I’m correct in my calculations. Or if F One being 6,5 inches cone it will distort a lot above 85 dB or something like that.
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