Eversolo DMP-A8 Balanced Streamer/DAC Review

[JoetheLion]

Why would it stop being able to do what it currently does? "out of date" os only affects your ability to install new general-purpose software onto the device. It doesn't stop it from doing what it already does.

See for example here.

 

[xaxxon]

See for example here.

the dev tools don't disappear when a new version comes out. You can still update the software the same way you made it before the next version came out.

It's only if you need to integrate with things that require newer versions. And that's true no matter what platform you're on. Has nothing to do with android.

Newer android versions just stop you from loading arbitrary third party software that has no interesting older verions.

 

[Biamp]

My Sony tv displays the volume / changed on screen when connected to A8 via HDMI.

Bk

 

[denzity]

I'm looking to replace my NAD C658 (which is currently my streamer and preamp). I'm tempted by the DMP-A8. Is it the best choice for under $10k or would a dedicated streamer + separate preamp be better? Perhaps with the Wiim ultra for streaming?

 

[Salt]

Under $10k lies the A10, not?

 

[dcberti]

You can hook up one or two subs either via XLR or RCA outs. Unfortunately when you apply a filter it goes to all outputs. So you cant apply a high pass filter to the mains without it also going to the subs. I really hope they fix this with a firmware update if possible. As its stands now all you can do is send a full range signal to the speakers and subs and use the low pass filter on the sub. I would be great if you could apply a filters to XLR and RCA outs independently.

Thanks for the info. I had been wondering if I could use subwoofers with this as well. So, is that what the XLR/RCA setting is for? So both outputs are active at the same time?

 

[StiffSwede]

Why would it stop being able to do what it currently does? "out of date" os only affects your ability to install new general-purpose software onto the device. It doesn't stop it from doing what it already does.

The big issue in the future might be security concerns when Google stops supporting the current Android system. If you don't connect it to the internet then you will be fine but then what is then the meaning of a device like this. And if you do not care about security concerns then it is also not relevant.

I wish Eversolo could come out and say if they intend to upgrade to a newer Android version if/when Google stops supporting the current one.

 

[mermayer]

For me, a system based on Android would never be an option. The years go by far too quickly.

 

[xaxxon]

The big issue in the future might be security concerns when Google stops supporting the current Android system. If you don't connect it to the internet then you will be fine but then what is then the meaning of a device like this. And if you do not care about security concerns then it is also not relevant.

I wish Eversolo could come out and say if they intend to upgrade to a newer Android version if/when Google stops supporting the current one.

okay, but what about some other system that doesn't get upgrades ever? It feels like people are putting requirements on this amp that they don't have for others.

 

[xaxxon]

For me, a system based on Android would never be an option. The years go by far too quickly.

How do you determine if other options are acceptable? How would you know if they are even mildly secure right now, much less in the future?

Feels like people are creating higher standards for this device vs others. I'll take something that's a known quantity that isn't perfect vs an unknown quantity.

 

[StiffSwede]

okay, but what about some other system that doesn't get upgrades ever? It feels like people are putting requirements on this amp that they don't have for others.

I don't think hackers will target proprietary software the same way as a widely used operating system to steal user data, probably because it is to small amount of data to steal. And the "hackers" will not target Eversolo per se but the outdated Android system if a bug is found and Google have stopped supporting it with patches.

I have nothing against Eversolo on the opposite! I am looking to upgrade my system and the DMP-A8 popped up as it had the functionality I wanted, and I would probably buy one if Eversolo would came out and say something about their plans to upgrade the Android version they are running.

If I understand Eversolo A6 (A8, A10?) uses Android 11 and end of live for it was last year 05 Feb 2024. So for me this is unfortunately a no go unless they upgrade Android version.

 

[xaxxon]

I don't think hackers will target proprietary software the same way as a widely used operating system to steal user data, probably because it is to small amount of data to steal. And the "hackers" will not target Eversolo per se but the outdated Android system if a bug is found and Google have stopped supporting it with patches.

I have nothing against Eversolo on the opposite! I am looking to upgrade my system and the DMP-A8 popped up as it had the functionality I wanted, and I would probably buy one if Eversolo would came out and say something about their plans to upgrade the Android version they are running.

If I understand Eversolo A6 (A8, A10?) uses Android 11 and end of live for it was last year 05 Feb 2024. So for me this is unfortunately a no go unless they upgrade Android version.

no matter what version they upgrade it to it will eventually go EOL. And it's not like IoT devices aren't targeted all the time -- there's NO standard for security in those devices, unlike an EoL android that actually had one.

If you're worried about android devices then you need to worry way more about random IoT things and put them on VLANS. And if you're doing that you can just vlan off your eversolo and be at least as secure.

 

[StiffSwede]

no matter what version they upgrade it to it will eventually go EOL. And it's not like IoT devices aren't targeted all the time -- there's NO standard for security in those devices, unlike an EoL android that actually had one.

If you're worried about android devices then you need to worry way more about random IoT things and put them on VLANS. And if you're doing that you can just vlan off your eversolo and be at least as secure.

I do worry about everything security wise! Probably why I investigated the product I was interested in.

And I am not worried in the Android system, I actually like it runs on Android, not just the fact it uses an end of life version.

 

[Salt]

A setting that does not need a internet (streaming) connection but only streams from local media could not be affected, except imported malware via firmware update (via USB). And that is independend from net-connection.

 

[Loftrocket]

I'm almost bought A6, as my first ever streamer, price was good, about 450€, but after that I've realised, that after I gonna upgrade lpsu, which 200+€, and then I gonna buy better external dac, I guess 600+€ and then... A8 for 1350€. Think it can be good source and dac for a long time. Am I right? Building a budget friendly set-up, for now i have only Buchardt i150 amp. Planning Buchardt S400MK2 speakers, maybe SVS micro 3000 sub...

 

[Salt]

Lpsu?
Better external DAC?

 

[staticV3]

Think it can be good source and dac for a long time. Am I right? Building a budget friendly set-up, for now i have only Buchardt i150 amp. Planning Buchardt S400MK2 speakers, maybe SVS micro 3000 sub...

I think an A8 would be a huge waste of money.

I'd buy a WiiM Mini->Optical->I150 and use the Burchardt as crossover, or WiiM Ultra->RCA->I150 and use the WiiM as crossover.

 

[Loftrocket]

Salt
Why not? I've heard many complaints about overall sound signature from A6 internal dac and saw, that many owners upgraded switching power supply (really don't get, why they using switching psu) for linear. It's not my fantasies.
staticV3 , why it'll be waste of money? I thought it's a sone kind of mid tier endgame streamer.

 

[staticV3]

I've heard many complaints about overall sound signature from A6 internal dac and saw, that many owners upgraded switching power supply (really don't get, why they using switching psu) for linear. It's not my fantasies.

Until those people have done controlled tests to rule out placebo, their impressions are indeed mere fantasies, keeping an often fraudulent and corrupt industry afloat.

staticV3 , why it'll be waste of money?

Because you won't get a bump in sound quality anywhere near proportional to the money put in. Most likely, you won't get a bump at all.

 

[Salt]

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Why not? I've heard many complaints about overall sound signature from A6 internal dac and saw, that many owners upgraded switching power supply (really don't get, why they using switching psu) for linear. It's not my fantasies.
staticV3 , why it'll be waste of money? I thought it's a sone kind of mid tier endgame streamer.

What, looking at Amir's review of A6, would point out PSU is faulty?