Audyssey Room EQ Review

[zaraki]

No worries. What does the speaker distance of the subwoofer in the receiver show at the moment?

0.97m for left
0.96m for right
5.76m for sub

i guess ill have to remeasue then and set them all to tthe number in your video, sorry

 

[OCA]

wow, big difference in the graphs now, i am sorry to i did not understand how to do that step

i raised the sub gain in the svs app, let mw know if you want me to raise it more. at -17db in svs app the REW cliped so i set to to -27db in svs app

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here is the new file https://www.dropbox.com/s/1o2cjuns63z0vgt/kef hope fixed.mdat?dl=0

and there's no PEQ applied in the SVS app, rite? I will send you correct PEQ settings for it at the very end.

 

[OCA]

0.97m for left
0.96m for right
5.76m for sub

i guess ill have to remeasue then and set them all to tthe number in your video, sorry

No, leave them as is.

Change right speaker distance to 1.03
and subwoofer distance to 4.08
left can stay as is

 

[zaraki]

and there's no PEQ applied in the SVS app, rite? I will send you correct PEQ settings for it at the very end.

yeah there no PEQ via the svs app

here is hopefully the fixed file for real this time

edit i just saw your post, so you dont need this new file? i changed the all distance to 0.04 like what was in the video. should i still remeasure once i do the following "
Change right speaker distance to 1.03 and subwoofer distance to 4.08 left can stay as is" ?

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[OCA]

yeah there no PEQ via the svs app

here is hopefully the fixed file for real this time

edit i just saw your post, so you dont need this new file? i changed the all distance to 0.04 like what was in the video. should i still remeasure once i do the following "
Change right speaker distance to 1.03 and subwoofer distance to 4.08 left can stay as is" ?

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No, I don't need any more measurements. I will send you the final calibration soon.

 

[zaraki]

No, I don't need any more measurements. I will send you the final calibration soon.

that is good to hear! thank you very much again for your time and help!

 

[OCA]

Here's your final ady file. It will transfer the correct EQ and distance settings to the receiver. No change in FL and FR volume levels. Subwoofer volume level needs to be decreased by -1.5dB (do that in the receiever menu). Audyssey DEQ will be on automatically. Change its offset level to whatever it was when you measured "meta fixed.mdat" above. Set speakers to small and set the crossover frequency to 60Hz! (We might need to change that to 120 if the right speaker null at 100Hz is audible)

Final.ady

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And in the subwoofer PEQ, you need these filters:

PK Fc 21.05 Hz Gain -2.50 dB Q 9.079
PK Fc 23.00 Hz Gain -1.60 dB Q 11.432
PK Fc 46.00 Hz Gain -14.10 dB Q 3.257
PK Fc 86.50 Hz Gain -2.30 dB Q 11.018
PK Fc 95.50 Hz Gain -2.20 dB Q 4.715

This is how it will look like:

I used speed of sound as 300m/s but your AVR might be a one of the models they have fixed that problem. If the speaker distances are stil not aligned, we can do some fine tuning tomorrow.

 

[zaraki]

Here's your final ady file. It will transfer the correct EQ and distance settings to the receiver. No change in FL and FR volume levels. Subwoofer volume level needs to be decreased by -1.5dB (do that in the receiever menu). Audyssey DEQ will be on automatically. Change its offset level to whatever it was when you measured "meta fixed.mdat" above. Set speakers to small and set the crossover frequency to 60Hz! (We might need to change that to 120 depending on the final measurements)

Final.ady

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And in the subwoofer PEQ, you need these filters:

PK Fc 21.05 Hz Gain -2.50 dB Q 9.079
PK Fc 23.00 Hz Gain -1.60 dB Q 11.432
PK Fc 46.00 Hz Gain -14.10 dB Q 3.257
PK Fc 86.50 Hz Gain -2.30 dB Q 11.018
PK Fc 95.50 Hz Gain -2.20 dB Q 4.715

This is how it will look like:

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We can do some fine tuning tomorrow.

thank you very much!!!

how should i add the sub PEQ settings? the svs app wont let me do all that

 

[OCA]

thank you very much!!!

how should i add the sub PEQ settings? the svs app wont let me all that

I am not familiar with SVS app. What can you do with it? Is it fixed frequencies? If only 3 bands, enter the first 3. For 60Hz crossover, you don't need the others anyway. If it's fixed frequencies, then you should tell me these frequencies and I can produce something with that. But it will need to be tomorrow.

 

[zaraki]

I am not familiar with SVS app. What can you do with it? Is it fixed frequencies? If only 3 bands, enter the first 3. For 60Hz crossover, you don't need the others anyway. If it's fixed frequencies, then you should tell me these frequencies and I can produce something with that. But it will need to be tomorrow.

not much, just 3 PEQ filters. it can do any frequncies from 50hz to 200hz but not nothing with a "." after the the number. it can reduce up to -12db or boost up to 6db per PEQ and can do a q value of 0.2 to 10.0

so i dont think the first 3 will work unfortunately.

would a crossover of 60hz really be ok? most say 80hz or even 120hz for the ls50 metas but im not sure as i dont know much about this stuff

also i am not sure about the speed thing on the AVR, my model is the AVR-X1700H

 

[OCA]

50hz to 200hz

Are you sure it's not 20Hz-200Hz?

 

[zaraki]

Are you sure it's not 20Hz-200Hz?

yes your right its 20hz to 200hz, sorry i did not swipe all the way with the touch screen.

i double checked the other settings for q value and gain and what i said before is accurate for them

 

[OCA]

yes your right its 20hz to 200hz, sorry i did not swipe all the way with the touch screen.

i double checked the other settings for q value and gain and what i said before is accurate for them

Coukd you remeasure with the ady I sent?

 

[zaraki]

sure here it is with DEQ at offset 10 like before and master volume at 50

thanks!

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[OCA]

sure here it is with DEQ at offset 10 like before and master volume at 50

thanks!

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Speaker distances are optimal:

 

[zaraki]

Speaker distances are optimal:

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ok that is good to hear

also i normally listen to my music at with a master volume of 50 before with normal audyysey, but i just tested it with the new calibration i dont have to turn it it up a lot and would probably only listen to a master volume of 37 to 45ish then

do you want me to remeasure at master volume 40 then? as the bass in the sub is not nearly punching as hard as the regular audyysey i had before at the new master volume level when i tested it at 60hz, 80, or 120hz crossover to just see how it sounded but maybe thats because i dont have the sub PEQ working yet. the rest of the spectrum sounds amazing so far though

 

[OCA]

ok that is good to hear

also i normally listen to my music at with a master volume of 50 before with normal audyysey, but i just tested it with the new calibration i dont have to turn it it up a lot and would probably only listen to a master volume of 37 to 45ish then

do you want me to remeasure at master volume 40 then? as the bass in the sub is not nearly punching as hard as the regular audyysey i had before at the new master volume level when i tested it at 60hz, 80, or 120hz crossover to just see how it sounded. the rest of the spectrum sounds amazing so far though

Yes, you should measure at your usual level. DEQ will dim the bass and treble quite a lot from 50 down to 37. There's no EQ in the sub at the moment (coming soon see below) so don't worry about the sound at the moment:

 

[OCA]

These are the required sub PEQ filters:

and XO frequency should be 60Hz. The other alternative is 120Hz but that merges worse in calculations. 60Hz btw is also what can be seen clearly from your KEF specs.

 

[zaraki]

ok this is with master volume at 37 and svs sub gain at 20

i am sorry, i did not know i would not have to turn the volume up nearly as much as normal audyysey

the filters you gave can work in the app now but for q value for example instead of 1.64 i can only do 1.6 or 1.7

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[TheZebraKilledDarwin]

Speaker distances are optimal:

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I wonder, if the sub may be set too early with that method?
When I had adjusted the sub timing accordingly to this REW measurement method, I noticed a reduced clarity in dialogue.

I'm curious where the movement ~250 ms may come from?