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ADAM Audio A series 2022

We, frankly, do not know. Chances are they're okay, if nothing special.

Don't place them vertically. They're designed to be horizontal.

Nothing wrong with DSP, multiple manufacturers use it. Not all do however.
Unfortunately I don't have space to place them horizontally... But I'll try to figure out how can I do that.
About DSP, them convert audio signal in 96 kHz. But my apogee symphony can play in 192 kHz, I realise, that there is no files in such quality, but still ) it feels like I limiting my audio interface by buying this monitors. Maybe not, I definitely need to listen them for a while )
I have read a lot about Adam A8H, feels like they must play fine (I mean they are a 3-way monitors, in my mind a good monitor must be a 3-way, the construction itself of the monitors must be well constructed, the speakers must be good and reliable).
I tried to find a reviews, but found only one on this site (https://estradaistudio.pl/testy/sprzet-studyjny/1967-adam-audio-a8h-aktywne-monitory-trojdrozne), they worship it. Its on polish, but in our days we can use online translators.
Strange that only one review I can find on the topic. Maybe you saw a few more.
 
We, frankly, do not know. Chances are they're okay, if nothing special.

Don't place them vertically. They're designed to be horizontal.

Nothing wrong with DSP, multiple manufacturers use it. Not all do however.
Adam T series measured very well... I would expect the A series to actually be pretty special at their price point, unless some major unforced errors were made. T series did have me thinking Adam has decided their "house sound" is bright treble so they've shelved up their tweeters.. hopefully they haven't done that here

Unfortunately I don't have space to place them horizontally... But I'll try to figure out how can I do that.
About DSP, them convert audio signal in 96 kHz. But my apogee symphony can play in 192 kHz, I realise, that there is no files in such quality, but still ) it feels like I limiting my audio interface by buying this monitors. Maybe not, I definitely need to listen them for a while )
I have read a lot about Adam A8H, feels like they must play fine (I mean they are a 3-way monitors, in my mind a good monitor must be a 3-way, the construction itself of the monitors must be well constructed, the speakers must be good and reliable).
I tried to find a reviews, but found only one on this site (https://estradaistudio.pl/testy/sprzet-studyjny/1967-adam-audio-a8h-aktywne-monitory-trojdrozne), they worship it. Its on polish, but in our days we can use online translators.
Strange that only one review I can find on the topic. Maybe you saw a few more.
If you can't fit the A8H in the proper orientation, don't buy them and just go with A7V. Monitors don't have to be 3 ways to be good... it certainly helps but a well implemented 2 way system still sounds very good, especially when you compare a properly set up 2 way to an incorrectly positioned 3 way.

Sampling rate of DSP doesn't matter, don't pay attention to it. You can't hear anything up there, the DSP isn't doing anything up there, and the room correction certainly isn't either... don't waste computer resources & storage space by running above 48khz. In some cases it will actually degrade sound quality as out-of-band tweeter breakup that would be avoided with lower sample rates causes audible distortion. High sample rates are all marketing with absolutely zero practical use cases, and there never will be any, either

Subjective reviews are useless, pay no attention. The measurements on Adam's site will be more helpful than anything any subjective reviewer anywhere on the internet says.
 
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Subjective reviews are useless, pay no attention. The measurements on Adam's site will be more helpful than anything any subjective reviewer anywhere on the internet says.
They don't have any spins though. And product reviews by actual owners can be very useful in in identifying warts at times... e.g. there's one complaining about the level of buzz emanating from the S2Vs (which seems to be substantially more annoying than the regular hiss).
 
Adam T series measured very well... I would expect the A series to actually be pretty special at their price point, unless some major unforced errors were made. T series did have me thinking Adam has decided their "house sound" is bright treble so they've shelved up their tweeters.. hopefully they haven't done that here


If you can't fit the A8H in the proper orientation, don't buy them and just go with A7V. Monitors don't have to be 3 ways to be good... it certainly helps but a well implemented 2 way system still sounds very good, especially when you compare a properly set up 2 way to an incorrectly positioned 3 way.

Sampling rate of DSP doesn't matter, don't pay attention to it. You can't hear anything up there, the DSP isn't doing anything up there, and the room correction certainly isn't either... don't waste computer resources & storage space by running above 48khz. In some cases it will actually degrade sound quality as out-of-band tweeter breakup that would be avoided with lower sample rates causes audible distortion. High sample rates are all marketing with absolutely zero practical use cases, and there never will be any, either

Subjective reviews are useless, pay no attention. The measurements on Adam's site will be more helpful than anything any subjective reviewer anywhere on the internet says.
Thank you, for your reply.
I can’t refuse and don’t buy them ) because their on it’s way now, somewhere close to my city, I think in a few days they will be at my home. And their price was really good, I think if their sound in my room will be awful and I can’t listen them, I will sell them for little less money. So, I decided to try them anyway.
 
As a listener, I can tell you my subjective opinion about Adam A8H. I compere them with Yamaha HS8.
I hear detailed highs, more low bass, wider scene.
A found a few new details in every song/melody that I heard (like clap or hi-hat - or another additional sounds, that I haven’t heard on my Yamahas). Sometimes those additional sounds looks like a mistake while recording or mastering, but still, I like to understand that music produced by people and not by machines.
Bass become more readable, I can hear notes instead of hum.
I placed them horizontally as they intended. I like their appearance, more than yamahas.
So I like them very much, this is my first impression (after a few days of listening them), I hope that after a while I will not change my opinion.
 

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Measurement reports are up on Adam's site for the whole new A series. FR is maybe smoothed a bit too much but otherwise they have the full set.. dispersion, spectrogram, THD measurements, etc.

On a quick glance it looks very good! So good I think a A77H is my new center channel...
 

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CC @pierre see if you can digitize these.
I doubt they can be used to calculate a Harman score though as the directivities are given as isobars and not as individual measurements or early reflection and sound power measurements.
 
Wow. A8H is not great.
 
Wow. A8H is not great.
You should probably elaborate on comments like that... it looks fine. Great, even. 3 way with DSP room correction, quite linear on-axis and very high output capability with low distortion, all for that price, excellent... not as good as the KH 310, of course, but 310 cost more than 1.5 times a A8H, each. Horizontal dispersion is not as clean as maybe it could have been but it's a studio tool so it basically doesn't matter compared to on-axis .....
 
You should probably elaborate on comments like that... it looks fine. Great, even. 3 way with DSP room correction, quite linear on-axis and very high output capability with low distortion, all for that price, excellent... not as good as the KH 310, of course, but 310 cost more than 1.5 times a A8H, each. Horizontal dispersion is not as clean as maybe it could have been but it's a studio tool so it basically doesn't matter compared to on-axis .....
The dispersion is a mess. As far as whether or not it matters in a studio: it does, just less so. If you're moving side to side at all though it's a mess.
 
Looking at the measurements, is the A7V a good deal? To me they seem good but I don't know much about that stuff, except that the frequency measurement looks good to me, and the port issues seem to be much less apparent then in the smaller ones (?)

So far they seem to match my criteria of size, prices, front-portedness and eq possibilities. I want to use them for production, mixing and mastering in my small but treated home studio room, without a sub.

Appreciate your help.
 
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I recently got the A44H and I like it, but I want too make it sound perfect for voices (as a center speaker usually does) what room adaption options works best for it? Pic related is where the speaker is placed with a something underneath the front to point it slightly more upwards. Room is small btw.
 

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Hey, everybody.
Got my ADAM A7V today. Previously had an AirPulse A80. I really like the sound of the Adams, both UNR and Pure, but the UNR is more colorful, more for me.

But there is 1 problem.
Hiss at idle. Both monitors are connected to DX7 PRO PLUS (DAC+AMP).
The problem is definitely not the DAC+AMP, because even if you turn it off, nothing changes.
This noise only audible quite close to the monitors, but it stresses me a little bit.

The level is set to 0 dB and then somewhere between -50-60 dB on the DAC+AMP.
I set the level at -12db (lowest possible) on the monitors. Then hiss is not heard at all, if you do not bring your ear litteraly to them.
Then I set volume for normal listening level at about -31db on DAC.

Can I leave it like that?
Or by setting level -12 dB on Adam A7V and amplifying sound on the DAC+AMP, can I distort something \ lose in the sound?
 
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Hey, everybody.
Got my ADAM A7V today. Previously had an AirPulse A80. I really like the sound of the Adams, both UNR and Pure, but the UNR is more colorful, more for me.

But there is 1 problem.
Hiss at idle. Both monitors are connected to DX7 PRO PLUS (DAC+AMP).
The problem is definitely not the DAC+AMP, because even if you turn it off, nothing changes.
This noise only audible quite close to the monitors, but it stresses me a little bit.

The level is set to 0 dB and then somewhere between -50-60 dB on the DAC+AMP.
I set the level at -12db (lowest possible) on the monitors. Then hiss is not heard at all, if you do not bring your ear litteraly to them.
Then I set volume for normal listening level at about -31db on DAC.

Can I leave it like that?
Or by setting level -12 dB on Adam A7V and amplifying sound on the DAC+AMP, can I distort something \ lose in the sound?
Quickly checked spec of Adam A7v, max input level is +19 dBu, which is 6.904 vrms.
Your DX7 PRO has max output of 4.2vrms, so no problem here.

Read the spec -- 0 dBu = 100 dB SPL at 1 m for 0db setting.

Now, with -12db setting, you get 88db / 1m with 0dbu. And your DAC is able to output 14.68dbu (4.2vrms), so the max SPL you get is 102.68 db/1M. You won't get full SPL capability above 70hz, but unless you are using a subwoofer, you are likely limited by LF driver distortions.
 
I've had the A8H speakers that I've been trying to make them work but I think I'm going to return them. Not because they are bad but because they don't really fit my casual listening preferences.

I would say they sound large, neutral, very DAC dependent, and fast.

The stereo field and perceived size is way larger than I am used to. It's a little bit intimidating actually. It's like going to an IMAX theater to watch a casual TV show when you would like it on a small screen in your own home. There's a sense of it being imposed upon you at times. Great reference track for these speakers is Marta - Bip. When the bass drops in, it is ridiculous. Towers over the song like a skyscraper. Feeling of verticality.

The tonality is neutral, but the tweeter is just so polite and effortless it's offensive or less casual to use. Let's take a step back and remember the T-Series (T5V T7V) - extremely similar tweeter that sits in a wave guide that is more than a little bit similar, except they voiced that speaker with an explicit high shelf, because they knew that these AMTs are too polite and don't really work in untreated rooms. They are too fast, too dampened, too vertically limited, and too clean to appear as neutral. I don't mean flat. *Neutral*. Flat is a graph measurement, neutral is the perception of balance. Neutral may not be achieved even when flatness is shown because room interactions or systems that require more treatment to shine. Why is this relevant? If you just set these speakers up casually and run a calibration on them, they are recessed sounding. It's also kind of bizarre that they are the next step after the T-Series, somebody might like a step up over the T-Series and expect a different presentation but will be first perceived as smoother and polite in a bad way. You have to EQ them hotter. They don't cut through anything. They are too clean!

The wave guide is also just intentionally a bit narrow, but it's not the most narrow out there which is nice, and it's also nicer that they have less than 1m driver blending, so you really can use them in nearfield setting.

I don't really have much to say about the mid-range or the bass. The bass is great. It's fast and it definitely removes the use of my sub.

Speaker is also really DAC dependent. Yeah I know I'm going to get shit for saying that. That is the experience I had though. I measured these speakers through multiple different interfaces, which also means different preamps, different capacitors, different tuning, etc. The frequency curves I got were less than 0.5 dB apart. They were nearly identical and yet the sound presentation was vastly different (whatever is causing it is a different variablez it's just not ez pz frequency based). These speakers really do expose different styles of transient preference and width. With the SSL 2 MKII, they became instantly fatiguing and had overly punchy, "slammed" at you style dynamics. Ain't nobody going to be touching a compressor because you can seemingly hear every 0.1 dB of compression used. On the Apogee Boom, that all disappears... No tension and somebody pulled out a Bitwig ASDR modulator to make the transients leaner and ultra digestible. Wider and explicitly layered sounding, like they were gunning for headphone presentation with air added to everything so you can hear the minutia. And then you have other ones like Focusrite which presents a forward image and shows off crass loudness (Pop songs that shout at you like Ava Max - How Do I Dance, Lady Gaga - Garden of Eden), but wider and less aggressively than SSL. These speakers just absorb the presentation like a sponge of whatever you give them.

These are way higher quality than the IN-5, but it's the presentation style that's rubbing me wrong as just a casual listener who doesn't really want to massively modify my listening environment. I think I am just used to a smaller soundstage and presentation. These are so soft/flat/textureless, they don't really fit the kinds of music I listen to or inspire me. Correction, I could tolerate them except the damn tweeter. Eqing them goes a long way but I'm just I don't know I guess I have buyers remorse or perhaps have golden handcuffs because I got them on an amazing deal would not like to let them go because I can recognize some of the quality they have even if it doesn't line up with my preference. I think I'm definitely a dome person now.
 
I've had the A8H speakers that I've been trying to make them work but I think I'm going to return them. Not because they are bad but because they don't really fit my casual listening preferences.

I would say they sound large, neutral, very DAC dependent, and fast.

The stereo field and perceived size is way larger than I am used to. It's a little bit intimidating actually. It's like going to an IMAX theater to watch a casual TV show when you would like it on a small screen in your own home. There's a sense of it being imposed upon you at times. Great reference track for these speakers is Marta - Bip. When the bass drops in, it is ridiculous. Towers over the song like a skyscraper. Feeling of verticality.

The tonality is neutral, but the tweeter is just so polite and effortless it's offensive or less casual to use. Let's take a step back and remember the T-Series (T5V T7V) - extremely similar tweeter that sits in a wave guide that is more than a little bit similar, except they voiced that speaker with an explicit high shelf, because they knew that these AMTs are too polite and don't really work in untreated rooms. They are too fast, too dampened, too vertically limited, and too clean to appear as neutral. I don't mean flat. *Neutral*. Flat is a graph measurement, neutral is the perception of balance. Neutral may not be achieved even when flatness is shown because room interactions or systems that require more treatment to shine. Why is this relevant? If you just set these speakers up casually and run a calibration on them, they are recessed sounding. It's also kind of bizarre that they are the next step after the T-Series, somebody might like a step up over the T-Series and expect a different presentation but will be first perceived as smoother and polite in a bad way. You have to EQ them hotter. They don't cut through anything. They are too clean!

The wave guide is also just intentionally a bit narrow, but it's not the most narrow out there which is nice, and it's also nicer that they have less than 1m driver blending, so you really can use them in nearfield setting.

I don't really have much to say about the mid-range or the bass. The bass is great. It's fast and it definitely removes the use of my sub.

Speaker is also really DAC dependent. Yeah I know I'm going to get shit for saying that. That is the experience I had though. I measured these speakers through multiple different interfaces, which also means different preamps, different capacitors, different tuning, etc. The frequency curves I got were less than 0.5 dB apart. They were nearly identical and yet the sound presentation was vastly different (whatever is causing it is a different variablez it's just not ez pz frequency based). These speakers really do expose different styles of transient preference and width. With the SSL 2 MKII, they became instantly fatiguing and had overly punchy, "slammed" at you style dynamics. Ain't nobody going to be touching a compressor because you can seemingly hear every 0.1 dB of compression used. On the Apogee Boom, that all disappears... No tension and somebody pulled out a Bitwig ASDR modulator to make the transients leaner and ultra digestible. Wider and explicitly layered sounding, like they were gunning for headphone presentation with air added to everything so you can hear the minutia. And then you have other ones like Focusrite which presents a forward image and shows off crass loudness (Pop songs that shout at you like Ava Max - How Do I Dance, Lady Gaga - Garden of Eden), but wider and less aggressively than SSL. These speakers just absorb the presentation like a sponge of whatever you give them.

These are way higher quality than the IN-5, but it's the presentation style that's rubbing me wrong as just a casual listener who doesn't really want to massively modify my listening environment. I think I am just used to a smaller soundstage and presentation. These are so soft/flat/textureless, they don't really fit the kinds of music I listen to or inspire me. Correction, I could tolerate them except the damn tweeter. Eqing them goes a long way but I'm just I don't know I guess I have buyers remorse or perhaps have golden handcuffs because I got them on an amazing deal would not like to let them go because I can recognize some of the quality they have even if it doesn't line up with my preference. I think I'm definitely a dome person now.
well that is very interesting.
i have found a certain number of people irritated by how polite and clean t series tweeters are, they just cant get the high frequencies right while producing mixing.

one guy said and i paraphrase
"i need it for it to hurt in highs so i can dial it in" , yet he claimed they are enjoyable for listening since the lack of ear fatigue these tweeters produce and they can work longer time on them.
 
well that is very interesting.
i have found a certain number of people irritated by how polite and clean t series tweeters are, they just cant get the high frequencies right while producing mixing.

one guy said and i paraphrase
"i need it for it to hurt in highs so i can dial it in" , yet he claimed they are enjoyable for listening since the lack of ear fatigue these tweeters produce and they can work longer time on them.

I don't know if I want it to hurt, but it should be at least able to be piercing if necessary IMO. This is more airy and diffuse instead. When you bring the treble up, it sounds kind of like a wash instead of a lot of crispiness. If I were to lock in my whole room and have some expert set up, I bet they would blow my mind, but until then, people in the real world drift away from the ideal.

Part of the problem is also the disconnect between what professionals use versus what consumers use. If everybody used AMTs, then translation wouldn't really be a big issue because everybody would be on a similar page. But the average person is going to be listening on some kind of dome-based tweeter instead and they are different technologies, not just a similar technology in a different material.

I wanted to try these though because they are like the poor man's Beryllium - ultra clean, literally no break up (extension to 40khz), stupid fast (this is controversial because the speed benefit can be considered sacrificed when you have to have it in sync with all of the other drivers which are naturally slower, but I guess you can say that speed is not a limiting factor!), light weight. Now I've never heard beryllium, but I would just say that these tweeters just don't sound aggressive. Either that or I have negative ear pressure. That's the sensation you kind of get from them in a way, unless I cop some of the T-Series EQ on top.
 
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