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220V amplifier in 110V country... oops!

The reason for a 4 wire 240 Volt circuit (Hot a, Hot b, Neutral & Safety Ground) is:
There may be 120 Volt circuits, lights or receptacles in the appliance.
 
There are many buck/boost transformers on Amazin'. Most of them claim overly-optimistic, multi-kilowatt ratings. This one comes with an enthusiastically approving girlfriend—at least according to the video. Few—if any—are UL/ETL/CE/CSA certified. If you must, use at your own peril.
 
There are many buck/boost transformers on Amazin'. Most of them claim overly-optimistic, multi-kilowatt ratings. This one comes with an enthusiastically approving girlfriend—at least according to the video. Few—if any—are UL/ETL/CE/CSA certified. If you must, use at your own peril.
Buck/boost refers to a specific switched mode power supply topology. These are just autotransformers.
 
Cool. That's the first time I've seen "buck-boost" applied to transformers, and I've design buck-boost SMPSs. But how is "buck-boost" different from "step-up/down", which is the terminology I'm familiar with?

It's pretty much the same, just colloquial use terminology-wise. Technically, a buck/boost transformer is supposed to be used to adjust minor differences in input/output voltages but can be used to "pump" the output higher. Say if you needed 208V with a 220V line input (buck) or 220V from a 208V line (boost). The big ones are always multi-tap and require knowledge of how to wire them correctly. Phased wrong, copious amounts of magic smoke can be produced.
 
Open the lid.
Set the internal voltage selector switch (near the backside) to 110V and you're done.
Don't forget to write on the back it is a 110V version now.
 
Domestic power only uses 2 phases 180 degrees apart. If one phase is 120V, phase to phase is 240V.

Commercial 3-phase power has 3 phases 120 degrees apart. If each phase is 120V, phase to phase is 208V.

I would proceed as follows:
  1. Check the back of the amp for the voltage selector switch as shown by @sam_adams. If it has one, switch it to 115V.
  2. If not #1, open the cover and examine the power path between line in and the transformer. Can the wiring be changed as per the schematic shown in Sam Adam's comment? If so, get out the soldering iron and do it.
  3. Don't want to solder? Then do your 240V extension idea. I don't know if it meets code or not, but there is no issue with the amplifier. The voltage is applied across the primary windings, and the primary doesn't care if the power is line to line or line to neutral. Line to line is balanced, so it is less likely than line to neutral (unbalanced) to cause hum.

Domestic power in Canada can be 3 phases - it's especially common in apartment buildings (a lot of them), and, less commonly, subdivisions (for balance, some houses get 1&2, others 2&3, and others still get 1&3) . Basically to see if I have 180, the way to tell is the two hots from the dryer plug will measure twice a single phase, and 120 will measure single phase (eg. 117.2V) doubled, multiplied by 208 / 240.

180 deg Voltage
117.2V * 2 = 234.4 V

120 deg Voltage

117.2V * 2 * (208 / 240) = 203.2V will measure to see that whatever I get from the 240V outlet is double of a single phase.

I think you didn't answer part of my question because you thought it wasn't possible to have 3 phase at home. But since it is where I am (100% sure- my last oven had 208V/240V on its sticker...)
Basically the question was would the virtual neutral (I don't know what you'd call it...) created from floating the transformer across phases start jumping around +-~40-50V?
 
Open the lid.
Set the internal voltage selector switch (near the backside) to 110V and you're done.
Don't forget to write on the back it is a 110V version now.

:eek: there's an internal switch?!

I'm not home, but I'm excited to check that now!
 
:eek: there's an internal switch?!

I'm not home, but I'm excited to check that now!
Looks like it:

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For a future project I need 30W @ 240VAC. I bought the above early to try something out. Specifically, I was curious how using it would affect the A18's power factor, measured at the wall (this loosely represents the quality of the waveform the A18 receives)

Plugged in with effectively no adapter, the A18's power factor is 0.80

When this little thing is put in its path, power factor at the wall is 0.76

On the A18's rear, consumption is listed as 350 watts. Since W isn't always VA, and definitely isn't when it comes to transformers in audio amplifiers , I'll extrapolate (re: all the other amplifiers/AVRs/schtuff I've ever seen - stuff designed by courteous people who decided to include all the pertinent facts!)

My Arcam A18 toroidal transformer VA rating approximation: 470VA to 500VA

This "70WATT Max" (lol) device (which measures 2 inches wide 3 inches tall, and maybe 1 and 3/4 deep), probably has a 50VA transformer in it.

I was curious - what happens to power factor when 10x higher rated + inherently superior transformer is attached.

Answer? It drops 0.04 (oops, I put it at the beginning... lmao!). Not bad!

I honestly thought it was going to be a lot worse. This is relatively good news for the shape of the waveform. Now I'm not so set on getting 1600/1800/2000/2400W toroid - the 500VA one will probably be sufficient. Of course, I'll check how its AC output behaves with my scope when I get it - if it drops too much I'll have to exchange it


Some other information:
After this little guy powered A18 for 8 hours straight at basically idle (19.0W) {you could consider this background music level as well, because most amplifiers, when outputting less than a watt per channel, usually aren't drawing any more than +5 watts (above idle) from the wall}, the hottest external spot on the adapter is at the front under the outlet, and varies depending on the exact location - the top half of the front under the outlet ranges 53 to 58 deg C, while the rest of the package is is 30-45 C. Knowing this, the hottest part of the transformer inside is probably somewhere around 70 C. This makes me think that the "70WATT Max" rating is "Max" in the traditional sense. As in, Pyramid car subwoofer amp "Max" - it's actually rated for "35 watts maximum continuous power" lol. And then, even that is probably a bit of a stretch... Everyone knows that when electronics start getting toasty they give off a smell... This smell isn't necessarily a bad thing - most often it's just a few VOCs evaporating. If temp is above specifications though, and it's not just a few VOCs you're smelling, but the insulation on a coils? Then you're screwed. There's usually a difference in smell - and even if a component's cooking smells very similar to its burning, the rapid onset and severity is usually enough of a clue. Unless you're going WAY overboard - then you don't even smell it 'til it's fried!
 
I think you didn't answer part of my question because you thought it wasn't possible to have 3 phase at home.
True. Thanks for the info on that.
Basically the question was would the virtual neutral (I don't know what you'd call it...) created from floating the transformer across phases start jumping around +-~40-50V?
Yes, that's right. If my trig is right, the midpoint between phases will have an AC amplitude of 1/2 the single phase voltage wrt ground, and a phase of 60 degrees, halfway between the two 120 degree phases.
 
So I've been looking for an Arcam A18 forever, and one finally came up on eBay that shipped to Canada.
I was so excited to find it, that during the entire ordering process (plus the time it took to cross the ocean and a couple cities to my house), the fact that it was from the UK didn't register as the issue it is!
..lol...

Bit of info on the amplifier

- It's Bri-ish
- 350W maximum power consumption
- rated 50WPC into 8 ohms, 70 into 4 (continuous)
- TTT (toroid-type transformer)

Anyone looking for a 50/8 or 70/4 amplifier and who doesn't mind the used market - if you come across a great example of an A18? Jaaaack potttt!
(just sayin'...)


Anyway, back to my mistake...
When I attached a 3 prong power cord and plugged my A18 into the mains, the VF display glowed everrrr-so-lightly green for a tenth of a second.
... that was it! No relay noise - no,... NOTHIN!

I thought I got ripped off with a borken amplifier. I stewed for about 5 seconds, until I realised the greedy thing came from England and needed more volts.

I've got a couple variable transformers, one 300VA, one 2,000VA - when connected in series, they can turn 116V into 180V. While this is enough to run the A18, I'm not sure about its power rating while doing so (if I were to guess, I'd say probably 30 watts. 35 tops {not from testing}).

Since I want allllll of the beautiful watts the A18 can provide, without tying up my variable transformers needed for their intended purposes (2,000VA's job is to correct voltage droop on 200ft 14ga extension cord for 7+ amp power tools outside, 300VA's job is to enable supplemental suction on my push-vac), I've been thinking that I should get a dedicated 110-220V converter.


Below is a picture of a UMI converter (apparently it's a good brand). They use toroids.

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They come in many sizes, for many prices. Since I thought I was done paying for the A18 when I ordered it on eBay, I'd like to spend as little as necessary on this. Since all UMI converters should be the same build quality, the only difference between options is power rating, and, of course, price.

300W model is $70
500W model is $90
800W model is $130
1200W is $150
1600W is $170
1800W is $200
2000W is $200
2400W is $230 - $15, or $215

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So technically the 300W model should do just fine, because even at just 50% efficiency, running 70WPC would only draw 280W from the wall... But 280W is too much, because 70W RMS is 140W maximum, and music music's average power is only 10-15% maximum power, 20% in extremely bass heavy/consistent songs, so

28 + 28 = 56

56 * 2 (for worst-case 50% efficiency) = 112W average power for bass heavy music at 0.1dB below clipping with 4 ohm speakers

for 8 ohms, take 112W * 5 / 7, or only 80W average power


Something I forgot to mention is all the models mentioned above (300W, 500W, ...2400W) have a continuous rating of 80% of their rating. Don't ask me why they didn't just say 240W, 400W, 640W, 960W, 1280W, 1440W, 1600W, 1920W... IMO they're more marketable numbers - especially beside each other. Seem more sophisticated lmao

The speakers A18 will be driving most often have a minimum impedance between 6-7 ohms. The least considerate speakers he'll be forced to interact with: LSiM 703... They're a bit rude - they're between 3 and 4 ohms from 88 to 220Hz, with the average being about 3.65, and the bottom of the valley at 120Hz.


So I'm leaning toward the 300W (240W) model for $70...

Normally, the highest average power will be 80W. Since usually aim for 3dB below clipping to avoid clipping, the highest average power will be 40W. Since I don't often listen to consistently bassy and bass-heavy music, 40W turns into 30W.

30W when listening at louder levels. Whatever a watt over idle consumption is, is what it'll be drawing 90% of the time +
Call it 70W when I hook up my 3-way bookshelves.


The reason I'm considering options all the way up to 2400W is, when you plug a device into the grid, impedance is Low (capital L: LOW)

I'm not sure what the impedance is going to be of this 300W converter... I know it's going to be significantly lower than a similar weight EI transformer.


This amp isn't cheap, the flagship Polks in 2013 cost $2500 CAD, have semi-exotic drivers (underhung woofer) - same with the 8 ohms that will normally be driven by the A18. Though the music isn't bass heavy/focused, and the speakers aren't large/extend low, I'd like the amplifier to perform as well as possible - like it's plugged into the wall of some bloke's house across the pond.

If that takes a 2400W toroid, that's what I'll get. But if the 300W'er will do, I'm perfectly happy to use that. Money: I don't mind spending it, but I hate wasting it!





(note: the SA-10 and A19, Progression: A18 > A19 > SA10, are not similar in sound or design to the A18.
Arcam was bought up between A18 and A19, and whatever happened during the takeover, was bad (in my opinion...)
After learning the A18 was out of production, I bought myself an A19 for $1300CAD +tax (how bad could it be? it looks identical, it's the same brand...)
Less than two sad, sorry, years later, I sold the thing for just $400 :/
(tl;dr)lolol
Hey... a bite late here, but have similar problem! I jumped too quickly on an offer for a Marantz Cinema 70s. The model is also European and requires 230v whereas in Canada, well it's 110v. (I hate myself so much right now) Was also looking UMI converter 500 watts. Did you try one of them? Thanks !
 
Hey... a bite late here, but have similar problem! I jumped too quickly on an offer for a Marantz Cinema 70s. The model is also European and requires 230v whereas in Canada, well it's 110v. (I hate myself so much right now) Was also looking UMI converter 500 watts. Did you try one of them? Thanks !
I didn't.
I don't know how hard you plan to drive it, but if near its limits, I would recommend sizing the step-up transformer to 2-2.5x the size of the one in the receiver to ensure proper transient performance when all channels are driven, or if you're bi-amping and playing loud music. If you never near clipping, 1-1.5x the power rating should be no problem.

Actually, it looks like the 800W version doesn't cost much more. Might as well go for it, knowing it won't be a limiting factor. It could save you money in the future too, if you come across a good deal on another 230v something. Then again, by then i5 might be made irrelevant if the regulatory people get their way and everything's forced SMPS lol
 
Thanks for responding! I won’t push the amp too much, living in a condo So I’ll never reach the 250 watts peak of it. And trust me, I won’t need the 800 watts converter cause I’ll NEVER do the same mistake ahah.. Next one, in a far future i hope, will be a 110v. Now each time I’ll turn on my amp whit that converter I’ll stress out… Really hope that UMI converter will be a reliable friend. Even if I had a deal on that Marantz Cinemate 70s, I don’t wanna burn it and lose it!
 
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