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[No Politics] What you need to know about CoVID-19 by SARS-CoV-2 [No Politics]

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Willem

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I am an economic historian with a special interest in the history of diet and health. What you write is utter BS. Just compare modern life expectancy with that of the past, without antibiotics, vaccines, but bad food without too many animal proteins. We are massively taller than in the past, and this can easily be explained by the combination of a better diet (and animal proteins from dairy products in particular) and a more favourable infectious disease regime from sanitation and antibiotics plus vaccines. And no my research is not sponsored.
 

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I have been denouncing it here for a long time. It was first detected in the mortality data of Castilla and La Mancha because the community's Superior Court of Justice decided to investigate.

By the way, I ratify myself, there is a regrowth in a neighborhood of Tarragona city, which no media publishes. Yesterday another regrowth in Reus, a short distance away, in a nursing home: 17 elderly and 2 workers.
 

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https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/

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Phlippines: +15%
 

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I have. And there was another today in the New York Times (and not its first).

(I'm no longer surprised at how often when I see someone saying online 'I have not heard one word about [something that ticks them off]' , it turns out I actually have read one or more words about that something, from the rather mainstream news and analysis sources I read.)

Anyway, the *crowds* are overwhelmingly peaceful protesters. The 'looters and rioters' are a fraction. Just want to make that clear (from a NYC perspective)
Thanks. Well, I don't consider the Atlantic and NYT to be the main media. I was thinking more about TV news outlets. And I still say that in most of that coverage that I've seen, I haven't heard any authorities lamenting all the close contact and telling the protesters to stay home, like they told us all that we had to do. It's like they completely forgot about trying to keep people off the streets and cooped up at home.
 

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Unless a glass a day keeps the virus away...


I haven't touched alcohol since the pandemic. Alcohol suppresses the immune system. I always found that whenever I had even a bit of a cold and had some alcohol it would make the symptoms feel better at that time but I'd always wake up with the cold being worse the next day.

From what I've been able to find on the subject, drinking sensibly, a glass of wine or a beer a day, shouldn't tax the immune system much so should be ok. But given the nature of this scary virus it's made me chicken out and forego wine and beer for now.
 

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Well, that concern about the infection risk from large demonstrations was exactly the virtually universal response here in the Netherlands, and from the entire political spectrum. Combined of course with concern about looting on the one hand and racism and police brutality in the US on the other. I think the response here has been pretty even handed (and well informed).
See here for a TV video with Ahmed Aboutaleb, the socialist mayor of Rotterdam: https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1960...ehoor-om-zich-te-verspreiden-bij-demonstratie He explains that authorities cooperated closely with the organisers of the demonstration and that the organizers were given the largest public space available. All went well until people started moving towards the podium to see and hear more of the speeches, huddling dangerously together. Request from the organizers and from police drones did not help, so the event was disbanded on his orders. He will not ban a subsequent event.
 
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Today in the NEJM, the latest study indicating that the hype around HCQ is not deserved (and really, it's like 'OMG veils were lifted' difference claims in audiophile land, when DBT'd: if it were that big a real deal, don't you think some really strong positive results would have come out by now? )

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32492293

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(Anyone still pinning their hopes on Dr. Raoult has to ignore his rather stunning god complex. I fear he's gone 'emeritus' -- a term Jack Vance fans will recognize)
Well, this study involved postexposure prophylaxis, which is not the way HCQ is being used, as I understand it. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought health care workers were taking HCQ pre exposure. Now, in this trial, it appears that the HCQ regimen did show a nonsignificant 8.2 relative risk reduction of new illness compatible with covid-19(P=0.35). Yes, I understand that significance is at 0.05.

As to Dr. Raoult's data, what are you saying. Are you accusing him of fabricating his data?
 

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[ Second wave of data on the seroprevalence study. 94.8% of the [Spain] population has not been infected. 33% of SARS-CoV-2 infections are asymptomatic. ]

The first study: only 28%

El 5,2% de los españoles se ha contagiado de coronavirus, según la segunda oleada del estudio de seroprevalencia
[Spanish] https://www.larazon.es/salud/20200604/7j26cf57e5ejvh5jvaqxjhvn3m.html

5.2% of Spaniards have been infected with coronavirus, according to the second wave of the seroprevalence study
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.larazon.es/salud/20200604/7j26cf57e5ejvh5jvaqxjhvn3m.html

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Spain: 5.2%
Tarragona: 1.6%
 
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[ Second wave of data on the seroprevalence study. 94.8% of the [Spain] population has not been infected. 33% of SARS-CoV-2 infections are asymptomatic. ]

The first study: only 28%
These numbers are in line with the 30,000 person antibody testing (randomly selected) that NY did. After doing this, I recall our governor started saying 35% of the cases here were asymptomatic. I'd love to see the demographics of the asymptomatic cases. For example, would we find that the younger you are the more likely you are asymptotic?
 

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I decided to stop posting photos and comments on this forum.
I wrote that the Lancet was in error.
I wrote that milk is bad for health ...
I only write when I'm sure of what I'm saying ...

Goodbye everyone...
 
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