WiiM Mini Review (Streamer)

[antcollinet]

Excellent article, it says it all… AirPlay 2 is not bit perfect and convert to AAC 256 kbps…

Airplay2 can be lossless - whether it is nor not, depends on the sending app.

 

[Dominique-T]

So, does it mean that Apple Music app is faulty? When I stream with Apple Music, I get 256 kbps, but if I stream with Qobuz, I get around 1000 kbps with the same WiiM Mini…

Apple doesn’t know how to properly implement AirPlay in their own app?

 

[Brantome]

So, does it mean that Apple Music app is faulty? When I stream with Apple Music, I get 256 kbps, but if I stream with Qobuz, I get around 1000 kbps with the same WiiM Mini…

Apple doesn’t know how to properly implement AirPlay in their own app?

These articles might give some more info as to why I said earlier that Apple Music and Airplay 2 is a mess

Apple AirPlay isn’t always lossless. Sometimes it’s lossy — but why? | Darko.Audio

According to the diligent work of Darko.Audio Patron Brother Thomas.

darko.audio

Apple AirPlay’s audiophile Easter Egg | Darko.Audio

Now available in video format.

darko.audio

 

[Dominique-T]

Error 403, access to server denied…

 

[Brantome]

Strange. Try googling “Darko audio Airplay” and the first two results should be “Apple AirPlay isn’t always lossless. Sometimes it’s lossy — but why?” and “Apple AirPlay’s audiophile Easter Egg”, both from Oct 23

 

[Dominique-T]

It works! Thank you!

 

[Dominique-T]

I read the article, this is totally clear now… Thank you!

 

[andresdelnorteh]

Does anyone know if Wiim has fixed the Deezer API integration yet or does it still disconnect constantly?

 

[morillon]

was settled in January 2023

 

[d3vil0]

Hi, maybe someone will help

I've got a problem with long loading times on Tidal using Wiim Mini.
I'm using Wiim App to play Tidal music on my Android smartphone.
Both Wiim and Android are on fast 300 Mb/s internet with very good connection to WiFi on 5Ghz.

When I connect to Wiim for first time (fresh open Wiim App) Everything works fine. New songs loads almost instantly.
When I leave it to play for a few minutes and get back to Wiim app, when changing songs - it takes up to even 15 seconds to load the song, for now on, every song takes a long time to load.
When I close permanently Wiim app and open it up again - works fine again.
The only problem is with playing songs/albums i.e Searching songs works like charm.
What I checked:

• Connected to Wiim via WiFi
• Standby mode on Wiim - Off
• Wiim and Smartphone DNS - 8.8.8.8 + set static IP for Wiim
• Android do not throws Wiim APP into sleep
• Android WiFi energy saving - turned
• Other Android smartphone - same thing.

 

[Beershaun]

Trying to isolate variables:
When you use tidal app to play songs on the wiim do you have the same problem? It seems like a problem with the Wiim app itself.

It is just tidal songs from the wiim app or do you have a similar problem with other sources using the wiim app? Like locally stored music or other music service.

Have you tried logging out of tidal/disconnecting it from the wiim app and then reconnecting it?

Then if all of that no change you could contact customer service and see what they say.

 

[andresdelnorteh]

was settled in January 2023

I got rid of my wiim mid 2023 because it still wasn't fixed

 

[d3vil0]

Trying to isolate variables:
When you use tidal app to play songs on the wiim do you have the same problem? It seems like a problem with the Wiim app itself.

It is just tidal songs from the wiim app or do you have a similar problem with other sources using the wiim app? Like locally stored music or other music service.

Have you tried logging out of tidal/disconnecting it from the wiim app and then reconnecting it?

Then if all of that no change you could contact customer service and see what they say.

When use Tidal on Windows PC - same network - works fine.
I've tried to logout/login - no change.

Thx for the tip with customer service - will check them out

 

[morillon]

I got rid of my wiim mid 2023 because it still wasn't fixed

for my part, having waited for it since February 22, worked correctly (unusable before) January 23... in flac mode from only January 23..under Android...stable etc.
(to be frank I read here and the wiim forum, I don't remember people complaining about this problem since that date...)

 

[d3vil0]

Hi, maybe someone will help

I've got a problem with long loading times on Tidal using Wiim Mini.
I'm using Wiim App to play Tidal music on my Android smartphone.
Both Wiim and Android are on fast 300 Mb/s internet with very good connection to WiFi on 5Ghz.

When I connect to Wiim for first time (fresh open Wiim App) Everything works fine. New songs loads almost instantly.
When I leave it to play for a few minutes and get back to Wiim app, when changing songs - it takes up to even 15 seconds to load the song, for now on, every song takes a long time to load.
When I close permanently Wiim app and open it up again - works fine again.
The only problem is with playing songs/albums i.e Searching songs works like charm.
What I checked:

• Connected to Wiim via WiFi
• Standby mode on Wiim - Off
• Wiim and Smartphone DNS - 8.8.8.8 + set static IP for Wiim
• Android do not throws Wiim APP into sleep
• Android WiFi energy saving - turned
• Other Android smartphone - same thing.

Problem was with my Internet Router, I've change to IPv4 only and it works.
Looks like Wiim have a problem with IPv6.

My post on wiim forum:

Wiim Mini and Tidal - long load times

Hi, maybe someone will help :) I've got a problem with long loading times on Tidal using Wiim Mini. (newest Firmware version) I'm using Wiim App to play Tidal music on my Android smartphone. Both Wiim and Android are on fast 300 Mb/s internet with very good connection to WiFi on 5Ghz. When I...

forum.wiimhome.com

 

[LuckyLyndy]

Perhaps I am not using the correct keywords in my searches. I am running a WiiM mini to an adapter into a Panasonic A/V SA-XR 45.
I have the WiiM app, tablet, and the receiver on max volume. I don't get near the level vs. phono and CD input. Is there a lack of gain or output that I am missing in my setup?
Secondary question: after a fellow member advised me on how to switch to BT for audiobooks off of my phone, the app seems to always default to BT, when most of my music listening should always be with my WiFi for at least redbook 16/44 playback. I can't seem to find a way to make the default always WiFi, rather than the BT.

Side note: I noticed an article on Maria Schneider in last week's Guardian.

Jazz composer Maria Schneider: ‘David Bowie cracked me – maybe not in a good way’

The US musician has won star admirers and seven Grammys across three decades of lyrical and angry work – but you can’t stream it. She explains her fight against big tech, and her dismay at other artists’ apathy

www.theguardian.com

I enjoy her compositions. And yesterday, I received an email telling of a concert this Sunday. It may be 3 hours away, but I am stoked! I have my ticket and plan for an early spring weekend of cycling (https://bikekatytrail.com/) and music.

 

[staticV3]

@LuckyLyndy how is the WiiM connected to your Receiver?

 

[LuckyLyndy]

@LuckyLyndy how is the WiiM connected to your Receiver?

I believe my path is: Mini S/PDIF>Adapter to Coax Digital>Art Dio>Coax digital to receiver.

 

[staticV3]

I believe my path is: Mini S/PDIF>Adapter to Coax Digital>Art Dio>Coax digital to receiver.

Try WiiM Mini->Toslink->SA-XR45 Toslink in, so without the ART DI/O.

 

[LuckyLyndy]

Try WiiM Mini->Toslink->SA-XR45 Toslink in, so without the ART DI/O.

Yes, that works. I had the ART in my system for two things. First was for the phono stage as the receiver does not have one. The second reason was to use the DAC. But my assumption is that when the signal is going into the receiver, you are not bypassing the receiver's internal DAC. Is that correct?
And thank you for suggesting the more direct route.