Yes I agree.
To be honest I have nothing against expensive stuff if it delivers on technical side and look/materials/overall design.
I'm just against audiophile blabbing
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To be honest I have nothing against expensive stuff if it delivers on technical side and look/materials/overall design.
I'm just against audiophile blabbing
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Is this any good?
Sounds like it could be good. Without measured data...well, you know that story. This is ASR after all.
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One reason could be that some high end companies don't want to feed their market with real understanding and knowledge because that could eventually backfire for example when people see that similar and possibly even better objective performance can be acquired with much less money. Their target market just want to know it is claimed to be the ultimate and be impressed by unimportant numbers like weight, price and materials, which can be even seen with the thread starter.
You really think people who are buying magico speakers care about klippel measurements?
Have you never met someone with money, or someone who wants to make money?
Have you never met someone with money, or someone who wants to make money?
Agreed. I doubt it has much to do with whether you have money or not.
Afordable or no, I would never hire someone to shop audio for me. It's a hobby, I enjoy it (except for interacting with certain salespeople). I know centimillionaires who do their own car restoration, etc. - the fiddling is the fun.
On the other hand, I have already offered to hire someone to sell my old stuff (it's done). I get nothing but the proceeds out of that.
Yup. That's why I determined to learn about speakers. And at times it was fun. Honest!
I don't think these things mainly go to billionaires or hundred millionaires. I suspect most of these mega expensive speaker have huge MSRPs to make headlines and create drama. I think they pass through high end show rooms and audio shows and are sold at massive discounts (floor models!) as a pride of ownership product to 4-10 million dollar net worth retirees who stretch to buy them and don't really like ferraris.
Speculation of course
Speculation of course
That's an interesting guess. You certainly need a large room to take full advantage of these, though.
Let me be more precise -
1. Do you think Magico's business would be helped, hurt, or not affected by NFS measurements?
2. Are you surprised that they are offering a speaker at this price point, and do you think they will sell it?
I think those are just *different* questions, but I'm happy to speculate:
1. If they are good, probably unaffected to a tiny positive. If they compare unfavorably with other less expensive speakers, mildly damaging. I think the world of people who care about CEA-2034 measurements probably isn't going to fall for this, but would respect the company more and maybe be more likely to look at the lower price points. The world or people who eschew measurements wouldn't take notice. So not a big effect either way.
2. Models at this price point are intended to cast a halo on the rest of the line, so I'm not terribly surprised. They will sell a handful, I suspect.
Perhaps, I don't know. Even if you are retiring on $10mm, this is a pretty foolhardy purchase. It means your stereo cost about a year of pre-tax retirement income (given that a sustainable spend rate in 30 years of retirement should be around or below 4% before tax, see below)
What If Retirees Don't Want To Run Out Of Money In 30 Years? | Retirement Researcher
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Very few high-end speaker manufacturers offer Klippel data, or for that matter simple on-axis data. I guess before this it just hasn't been that kind of market.
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I assumed they had some sophisticated measurement apparatus. You don't get the performance they do by tweaking the crossover by ear like some high-end clown designers.
I did recently see a picture of some CEO who just got fired in a news article, and lo and behold he had the big focals (in blue) in his living room.
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I feel like klippel data destroys the air of mystique which sells these products. If I was Magico I would have an NFS for design but I absolutely wouldn't publish the data.
A. Lange + Sohne probably guarantees the precision of their movements but it's not like they break out a timegrapher in the showroom.
A. Lange + Sohne probably guarantees the precision of their movements but it's not like they break out a timegrapher in the showroom.
I realise Focals aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but to get fired because you have a pair…
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