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Bamyasi said:
But your GitHub page says it is for Qobuz/Tidal/Deeser? Yes, Qobuz playback is gapless on WiiM and always was, as I already wrote. I do not have the other two services but I imagine it's possible it is also gapless. But playback while casting from a local DLNA server (e.g. Plex Media Server) is not gapless. I know it sounds weird (no pun intended) but this is how my WiiM Mini works.
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Ah. Well, technically, the apps communicate to the WiiM via UPnP, but only to tell the WiiM which query to run against the services, populate a playlist, and play.

Pushing from a UPnP server will give the WiiM one track at a time. I'm guessing there is a missing endpoint in the WiiM's UPnP implementation that would allow your server to pre-cache the next track, so it could be gapless, but I think WiiM is working on that.

I haven't tested the WiiM pulling from my LMS server, but perhaps it's smart enough to do gapless that way? Dunno. The WiiM's UI for that is pretty limited right now.
 
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So, I just pulled an album from my LMS server using the WiiM's UI. It does populate the queue with all tracks, so *should* be gapless, though the albums I play always have a few seconds of silence at the end of each track, and I definitely don't have DSOTM in my collection, lol.

XML: 
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<PlayList>
    <ListName>Logitech Media Server [piLMSServer]</ListName>
    <ListInfo>
        <SourceName>UPnPServer</SourceName>
        <MaxTrackNumber>7</MaxTrackNumber>
        <MarkSearch>0</MarkSearch>
        <TrackNumber>10</TrackNumber>
        <Quality>0</Quality>
        <UpdateTime>71050</UpdateTime>
        <LastPlayIndex>1</LastPlayIndex>
        <AlarmPlayIndex>0</AlarmPlayIndex>
        <RealIndex>0</RealIndex>
        <SwitchPageMode>0</SwitchPageMode>
        <CurrentPage>1</CurrentPage>
        <TotalPages>1</TotalPages>
        <searching>0</searching>
        <PressType>0</PressType>
        <Volume>0</Volume>
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            </Metadata>
            <Id>0</Id>
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        </Track4>
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Ralph_Cramden said:
Ah. Well, technically, the apps communicate to the WiiM via UPnP, but only to tell the WiiM which query to run against the services, populate a playlist, and play.

Pushing from a UPnP server will give the WiiM one track at a time. I'm guessing there is a missing endpoint in the WiiM's UPnP implementation that would allow your server to pre-cache the next track, so it could be gapless, but I think WiiM is working on that.

I haven't tested the WiiM pulling from my LMS server, but perhaps it's smart enough to do gapless that way? Dunno. The WiiM's UI for that is pretty limited right now.
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They miss SetNextAvTransportURI, that's why it's not gapless when controlled via third party application. WiiM app uses non standard queue for gapless playback, I guess it's the same way you do.
 
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onlyoneme said:
They miss SetNextAvTransportURI, that's why it's not gapless when controlled via third party application. WiiM app uses non standard queue for gapless playback, I guess it's the same way you do.
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Could you submit a feedback message from WiiM Home app with this explanation, please? I did write them about DLNA rendering introducing pauses but obviously, I did not know what was causing it. WiiM developers seem to listen, so it makes sense to try and provide them with more details. They have some communication problems though and it seems their software developers do not speak English, so the support team needs to translate our tickets for them. The more detailed and clear explanations users provide the easier it would be for them to understand the issue and implement fixes.
 
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This is all nice and neat but last time they supposedly fixed gapless playback from the WiiM Home app for Amazon Music (after my several tickets and others complained too) they screwed things up by forgetting to remove forced fade out/fade in between tracks. It required several more tickets from me and from others for them to realize their mistake. So my point is that gently poking WiiM support while providing as much details as possible about the problem does help to speed up the process of fixing things, at least from my experience. As usual, YMMV.
 
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Bamyasi said:
Could you submit a feedback message from WiiM Home app with this explanation, please? I did write them about DLNA rendering introducing pauses but obviously, I did not know what was causing it. WiiM developers seem to listen, so it makes sense to try and provide them with more details. They have some communication problems though and it seems their software developers do not speak English, so the support team needs to translate our tickets for them. The more detailed and clear explanations users provide the easier it would be for them to understand the issue and implement fixes.
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It's a very common knowledge. I'm pretty sure they know what to do when they declare implementing gapless playback for controllers other than WiiM app.
 
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WiiM's roadmap page has this rolling banner:

"If you have trouble to use TIDAL Connect on the Android device, please clear the user data on Android setting for TIDAL App to workaround this issue. It will be fixed by TIDAL around 9/21"
 
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Big month for updates coming.

This will mean WiiM Pro will hit the ground running with all these features, less bugs and with Chromecast Built-In


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Big month for updates coming.

This will mean WiiM Pro will hit the ground running with all these features, less bugs and with Chromecast Built-In


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As soon wiim pro get release, I’m placing an order. Since pro has two digital out, coax and optical, one will be connected to directly to AVR and the other to external dac.
 
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Bluesound customers are not happy on the official Bluesound forum - the word has spread about what the WiiM Mini can, Amazon UHD bit perfect casting :D

Wait till Pro comes with Chromecast. It will cover everything (you can use Roon to play to Chromecast bit perfectly up to 24/96 but I think official Roon support will come)

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I read it. Can you imagine how expensive their streamer and can’t do amazon cast? I would be disappointed too knowing inexpensive streamer has more features. Linkplay is software company first so they got upper hand than those just know how to put hardware alone. On paper wiim look weak in term hardware specs but the magic is in the software and that’s where linkplay has the upper hand. Superior hardware is nothing without superior software to go along with them. When pro get release, they will be taking market share to those expensive streamer and they may lower the price. Competition is good it bring us buyer the advantage of price and selection.
 
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Music1969 said:
Bluesound customers are not happy on the official Bluesound forum - the word has spread about what the WiiM Mini can, Amazon UHD bit perfect casting :D

Wait till Pro comes with Chromecast. It will cover everything (you can use Roon to play to Chromecast bit perfectly up to 24/96 but I think official Roon support will come)

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I wonder who that poster Versaveau is, in there stirring things up , and Dronne on the Naim community forums? ;) https://community.naimaudio.com/t/amazon-hd-vs-qobuz/24800
 
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I read it. Can you imagine how expensive their streamer and can’t do amazon cast? I would be disappointed too knowing inexpensive streamer has more features. Linkplay is software company first so they got upper hand than those just know how to put hardware alone. On paper wiim look weak in term hardware specs but the magic is in the software and that’s where linkplay has the upper hand. Superior hardware is nothing without superior software to go along with them. When pro get release, they will be taking market share to those expensive streamer and they may lower the price. Competition is good it bring us buyer the advantage of price and selection.
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To be fair, I guess the Bluesound node will still have its place with its better DAC and other features even though it doesn't support AlexaCast for Amazon Music HD/UHD. Despite the poor interface to Amazon Music, some like its app.

As mentioned there, Linkplay have exploited their position as a long term systems integrator with Amazon to get where they are with Amazon Music. Bluesound don't seem aware of the Alexa MRM stack APIs that Linkplay used, but other suppliers like Naim have been but (I suspect from not operating in the Bay area of the USA) have less contact or immediate access to the right people in Amazon.
 
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Despite the poor interface to Amazon Music, some like its app.
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Using it is like time travelling back to the year 2000 (for me)

But if you don't care for recommendations and autoplay and playlists and discovery - and you just want to search and play - which many people are still happy to do - then its perfectly fine and has been bit perfect in that way for years now
 
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