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No. Never use a mono jack in a try output since it will short one of the balance signals on the output to ground. Use a balanced trs to rca connection.
Thanks. So the wiring should be TRS tip to RCA tip and TRS ring and sleeve to RCA sleeve?

Edit: No, wait... that would have the same effect right? So the TRS ring should simply be left unconnected?
 
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Yes, clearly I gave bad info. I think it is necessary to connect TRS- to shield. Normally I’ve only thought of it in terms of RCA to TRS, not the other way.

Perhaps it makes sense in a TRS to RCA, to only connect the shield at the RCA end?

Or just accept The short to earth via the output impedance of the TRS Output.
 

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For Europeans the miniDSP Flexis now listed at Audiophonics for 799€ (RCA) and 899€ (TRS) including the 20% french VAT. Dirac seems to be included. The ETA 15-25 Days, so maybe its even available this year.....
 

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The all digital version makes me think.... wouldn't it be better to stream the outputs and just forget about cables?
 

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Yes, clearly I gave bad info. I think it is necessary to connect TRS- to shield. Normally I’ve only thought of it in terms of RCA to TRS, not the other way.

Perhaps it makes sense in a TRS to RCA, to only connect the shield at the RCA end?

Or just accept The short to earth via the output impedance of the TRS Output.
Looking at this schematic (no. 10), it seems the ring should be kept unconnected.

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This looks like the the product I have been waiting/advocating for some time! :D

Really like the form factor and the functionality. Let's hope the DAC is more of SHD and less of 4x10HD level...

In the meantime I use my Denon AVR also for 2.2 and DSP/DRC but I am eagerly awaiting for the review and measurements

Now lets see some competition in this category to drive the prices down and the value up! We are all fed up with awesome 2 channels DACs (are you with me??), THIS is the new frontier!
 

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Feature request to the miniDSP team: allow the option of MIXING input from the various audio sources, not just SELECTING between the sources.
 

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Balanced Version Ordered!
 

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For Europeans the miniDSP Flexis now listed at Audiophonics for 799€ (RCA) and 899€ (TRS) including the 20% french VAT. Dirac seems to be included. The ETA 15-25 Days, so maybe its even available this year.....
I get the appeal for a stereo system, however, for a bit more money you'll get a complete AVR with 9.2 channels of Dirac soon from Onkyo and Panasonic. It even includes a battery of amps ;)

Sure SINAD will be quite a bit lower, but it will gain you quite a few other things as well. Relatively speaking, I think Dirac is too pricy as a stand-alone or add-on product. Too bad there isn't that much competition out there.
 

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I get the appeal for a stereo system, however, for a bit more money you'll get a complete AVR with 9.2 channels of Dirac soon from Onkyo and Panasonic. It even includes a battery of amps ;)

Sure SINAD will be quite a bit lower, but it will gain you quite a few other things as well. Relatively speaking, I think Dirac is too pricy as a stand-alone or add-on product. Too bad there isn't that much competition out there.
For Home cinema no doubt the better choice. But if you listen mostly to stereo, at least the current Onkyo offering seems not ideal judgin by the Onkyo TX-NR7100 with relatively high THD-N with their amp section and low output levels. For me Watching Movies is ok, but I don'Ät have the Romm for a more than 2 speakers, so the Flex is the best option.

Also I think most AVR's have similar specs to the Minidsp DDRC 24 (which is a 2x4 hd with dirac) and that one is half the price.

 

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I get the appeal for a stereo system, however, for a bit more money you'll get a complete AVR with 9.2 channels of Dirac soon from Onkyo and Panasonic. It even includes a battery of amps ;)

Sure SINAD will be quite a bit lower, but it will gain you quite a few other things as well. Relatively speaking, I think Dirac is too pricy as a stand-alone or add-on product. Too bad there isn't that much competition out there.
Finding the Onyko and Pioneer AVRs in stock is really a chore... I feel like we're going to live forever in a chip shortage.
 

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I get the appeal for a stereo system, however, for a bit more money you'll get a complete AVR with 9.2 channels of Dirac soon from Onkyo and Panasonic. It even includes a battery of amps ;)

Sure SINAD will be quite a bit lower, but it will gain you quite a few other things as well. Relatively speaking, I think Dirac is too pricy as a stand-alone or add-on product. Too bad there isn't that much competition out there.
Can’t fit an AVR on my desk, Also AVRs with balanced outs are not so cheap.
 

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Like I said, for a stereo system it makes sense.
 

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However I might prefer the "Digital version", (no analog output), alluded to in the Specifications
A critical question is if the Digital Version will be a 2x2 or 2x4. With multiple digital outputs, I could more easily use separate high-quality DACs (e.g. 2x Topping E30s or D90s) with one sending lineout to my active speakers and the other DAC sending line out to my subwoofers.
 

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Awesome! Thanks for adding that link. I was only looking at the website and hadn't looking at the briefing document.

Well, it's also mentioned in the Specifications tab ;)

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Looking at this schematic (no. 10), it seems the ring should be kept unconnected.

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Re: Number 10 - Interconnect cables for balanced to unbalanced connections (1/4" TRS to RCA), where the TRS ring is left floating, are surprisingly hard to find. I make my own.
 
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