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There is high sample rate and more than one frequency in Multitone:
And full frequency sweep:
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WiiM Ultra Streamer Preamp Review
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And full frequency sweep:
morillon
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"ana input" ... (" analog input ")....not this...There is high sample rate and more than one frequency in Multitone:
And full frequency sweep:
(just to know a little more about this entry... the sweep being obviously more informative of 1k, and it's easy now to share it)
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I think I'm the only one who was surprised at how well the screen works on a ~$300 device that includes so much. Lol. The main benefit for me is it makes physically interacting with the device a *breeze* compared to the click sequence and scroll ordeals found on units like my Topping E70.
My main gripe is not that the sort of "bonus" phono stage is just "ok," but that the Bluetooth support isn't better. I *think* they can add better bt support with the hardware on board, not sure. So, fingers crossed. They sure do stay on top of updates and community input (huge bonus, imo).
The streamer/DAC aspect is golfing panther for me, the analog inputs are gravy. This thing does *a lot*.
My main gripe is not that the sort of "bonus" phono stage is just "ok," but that the Bluetooth support isn't better. I *think* they can add better bt support with the hardware on board, not sure. So, fingers crossed. They sure do stay on top of updates and community input (huge bonus, imo).
The streamer/DAC aspect is golfing panther for me, the analog inputs are gravy. This thing does *a lot*.
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One of the best settings that helped me is the possibility of change output voltage.
Having Genelecs (8030 and G Two) which sensitivity is too high, the 1V line out matches perfectly the 96 dB @ 1V of the G Two or the 94 dB @ 1V minimum gain of the 8030, while keeping the DAC volume on sweet not to low-not to high region.
Having Genelecs (8030 and G Two) which sensitivity is too high, the 1V line out matches perfectly the 96 dB @ 1V of the G Two or the 94 dB @ 1V minimum gain of the 8030, while keeping the DAC volume on sweet not to low-not to high region.
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in fact the function present on the different wiim products can be quite practical...
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I am quite enjoying my WiiM ultra so far. It is connected to a Bel Canto dac/amp via spdif so using the dac from the Bel Canto. Very usable Wiim app on Android and decent interface directly on the device itself.
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(just that, even if the digital output of the ultra has been improved a little, we can think that a "pro" (or a "plus") would have done the trick for your specific use..and same app etc ;-) )
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True but I prefer the flexibility of changing my setup later if I choose
How do you know he is not using the ARC or phono input? Plus he has also mentioned he uses the interface on the actual device as well.
Miguelón
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I did the same choice, the possibility of using even the usb output (I have an audio interface that hasn’t other digital input than usb), or the RCA excellent DAC directly with active monitors, or SPDIF if going to another DAC in the future decided me towards the Ultra.
Also the screen is lovely detail: I never used it but I like to see whats going on there, the album images
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indeed....my simplistic statement just in reaction to the message that I cited....it was just a small reminder that in certain cases-use, a pro or"plus" ( or mini!) can be enough.."streamer-num output"...
(they have a fairly limited line input of the same type as the ultra...but in fact no arc...and the belcanto made me think perhaps stupidly that more audio oriented than "video tv etc")
just that ;-)
(recognize that there can be a very consumerist temptation that makes us throw away fashionable things while, for use, "the old" continues to correspond to our needs... the question can be asked often... ;-) )
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Miguelón
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I understood also you were talking about that consumerist attitude… mainly induced by smart marketing tactics
In my case I hesitated a lot, talking to myself if saving 150€ was more practical than investing in a gadget that will be not different than the other Pro Plus model.
But for most cases, Ultra has inputs that were demanded on their forums by lots of audiophiles: ARC input, usb output, sub dedicated output…
The company doesn’t present typical “Apple” profile with aggressive marketing (where they sold the same computer or smartphone again and again with usefulness improvements).
Finally I found justified the extra money, by rational reasons, and perhaps a little bit of “happy new product” irrational component.
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there's almost a little irony for me... I would be tempted to think that in a somewhat "ambitious" audiophile use...
a "plus" or a pro vers dac would find its place just as much or even more...
the ana inputs are modest, the phono will not really concern enthusiasts, the sub will often not be used , just like the arc... and the screen rather turned off whether for audio or even visual disturbances * (and a fragility and slight obsolescence to come)..
my words just for the exchange
;-)
*(often hdg equipment allows you to vary the brightness...see turning off in digital equipment mainly)
Miguelón
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Absolutely agree: in fact I had the Plus from Amazon some days, and didn’t noticed any improvement in audio.
But having active monitors, from time to time I watch operas on my TV, and enjoy the arc connection.
Or as I mentioned, I have a DAC with balance connections and it worths to connect it by usb (don’t have any other digital input), to benefit by interference free signal.
I don’t have a sub yet, but in a year or so I will get one, sub out will be helpful (not totally needed because I will purchase a sub with its own high shelving filter, but I was told that is better to control all on the computer).
The screen is pure aesthetic, but some aesthetic make part of the pleasure
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It is as good as the little NAD phono stage I’m using now. Which cost about 50% of the Ultra :lol:
Saponetto
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I read that several happy users enjoy themselves by playing music files coming from thumb drives, or hard drives, plugged to the usb socket of the Ultra.
Am I wrong or this device could actually work as a standalone music player also?
I can't get a clear answer on this point...
Am I wrong or this device could actually work as a standalone music player also?
I can't get a clear answer on this point...
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That depends on your definition of "stand alone". As of now it is not possible to navigate the entire contents of an external USB storage from the touchscreen. You can only assign assign e.g. playlists to presets and then play those playlists.
The hardware remote doesn't change that. In the end you need an app (not necessarily the WiiM Home App, but this is a natural fit, of course) to play your music from USB. And for that you need a network connection.
The filesystem of the USB storage is not exposed directly. The WiiM Ultra runs an instance of MiniDLNA instead, so your library can be accessed by artist, by album, by genre etc. There's also a "folder view" in case you prefer that but generally the display depends on well managed ID3 tags.
As I mentioned before, even other network players can access the music library of the Ultra through UPnP/DLNA.
Saponetto
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Thanks for the prompt answer, all questions are cleared!
Yorkshire Mouth
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I’ve been using mine with a USB stick for a week or two. It’s a shame you can’t use the screen to navigate it, but I’d probably mainly be using my phone anyway.
That aside it works well, and any other similar player you’d be using your phone anyway, I suppose.
And, of course, there’s a digital in. If you have any other player with a digital out, this will beat any DAC at the price (or anywhere even close) with its PEQ, sub out and bass management.
That aside it works well, and any other similar player you’d be using your phone anyway, I suppose.
And, of course, there’s a digital in. If you have any other player with a digital out, this will beat any DAC at the price (or anywhere even close) with its PEQ, sub out and bass management.
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