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which amp would be "better"
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its not this simple, one is better than the other I want to get the best worth for my money.
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Which one out of three is better? Easy Decision Maker picked the M3si
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I was in a musician's shop years ago, and I heard a customer ask the owner, "Which guitar amp is the best?". The owner replied, "Whichever one you like the most."
The more I thought about it through the years, the more I saw the wisdom in that reply. You don't get satisfaction from the biggest, the best, the fastest or the most expensive. You get satisfaction from the one you like the most.
Get the one you like the most. Otherwise, you can follow someone else's advice and second-guess it for the rest of your life. That's just how the human mind works.
Good luck!
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The more I thought about it through the years, the more I saw the wisdom in that reply. You don't get satisfaction from the biggest, the best, the fastest or the most expensive. You get satisfaction from the one you like the most.
Get the one you like the most. Otherwise, you can follow someone else's advice and second-guess it for the rest of your life. That's just how the human mind works.
Good luck!
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thank you for the replay tim, but again **these three stand for what I like in sound** in my price range ofc, but one might have better dynamic while having less detail. which I need to take into account before buying, hence why I am here...I was in a musician's shop years ago, and I heard a customer ask the owner, "Which guitar amp is the best?". The owner replied, "Whichever one you like the most."
The more I thought about it through the years, the more I saw the wisdom in that reply. You don't get satisfaction from the biggest, the best, the fastest or the most expensive. You get satisfaction from the one you like the most.
Get the one you like the most. Otherwise, you can follow someone else's advice and second-guess it for the rest of your life. That's just how the human mind works.
Good luck!
Jim
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Elac Solano BS 283: Seite 5 - i-fidelity.net
www.i-fidelity.net
So, we have an insensitive, genuine 4 Ohm speaker. As usual, we have no information on room size or listening distance, and we know there’s a turntable but not which cartridge.
We have an M2si review here:
Review and Measurements of Musical Fidelity M2si Amp
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Musical Fidelity M2si integrated stereo amplifier. It was kindly sent in by a member. I think the list price is US $999. However I see it selling for just US $599 from the outfit the owner purchased it. Other places have it as high as US...
www.audiosciencereview.com
Not bad, but not recommended and I wouldn’t buy it for these speakers. I don’t see any review with measurements for M3si but it appears to be the same amp with a DAC so the same story.
On manufacturer specs for the YBA (trustworthy?) it’s the only one that comes close.
The YBA has no phono stage, so if you don’t have one you would need to budget for it. I’d also prefer to see an independent measurement before buying.
What else is available to you?
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its fine I got a phono, all I need is an amp. I think imma go for the yba, thank you for being the most informative guy here. the m3si is not the same amp (its similar)Elac Solano BS 283: Seite 5 - i-fidelity.net
So, we have an insensitive, genuine 4 Ohm speaker. As usual, we have no information on room size or listening distance, and we know there’s a turntable but not which cartridge.
We have an M2si review here:
Review and Measurements of Musical Fidelity M2si Amp
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Musical Fidelity M2si integrated stereo amplifier. It was kindly sent in by a member. I think the list price is US $999. However I see it selling for just US $599 from the outfit the owner purchased it. Other places have it as high as US...
Not bad, but not recommended and I wouldn’t buy it for these speakers. I don’t see any review with measurements for M3si but it appears to be the same amp with a DAC so the same story.
On manufacturer specs for the YBA (trustworthy?) it’s the only one that comes close.
The YBA has no phono stage, so if you don’t have one you would need to budget for it. I’d also prefer to see an independent measurement before buying.
What else is available to you?
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I asked the opinion of my grandfather (an engineer) which worked as an engineer at the soviet space program, he said it will help to isolate EMI, but won’t make a hear-able difference.Someone's been reading too much nonsense in the "audiophile" press. The idiotic pieces of wood in the amp are a new one to me, tho.
He's an electrical engineer that is familiar with audio products? Let alone the silly stuff audiophilia has proposed these days to combat the deadly (much sarcasm) EMI?
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He’s familiar with electric interference, him being familiar with audio or not has nothing to do with it.
Uh huh. Do you live somewhere where such interference is an actual issue?
Upon initial inspection of the internal components captured in the above image, it seems evident that the power supply transformer and heatsink appear relatively undersized for the purported 165W/4Ohm power output.
I love the electrical circuit, it is well made and looks like it had thought put into it.
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In fact, most people who claim to own a system with, or to prefer a system with a warm sound don’t. Their system is either neutral or distorting in some other way. And in controlled testing, almost everyone prefers neutral electronics, preferring maybe a bit more or less deep bass from a system and that is determined by the speakers, not the electronics.
If you choose speakers that don’t sound the way you want, you are already on the road to disappointment. Maybe tone controls or EQ can recover the situation A different to neutral amp? Well, you may prefer it, but I can’t say that it will make up for the wrong speakers.
You are asking us to guess what you will like. We can only go by what the vast majority of people do like in terms of the sound in the room, and what will work together, because that is the state of knowledge.
All good amps sound the same ie they attempt to amplify the source without adding distortion. If you want this then start with Fosi audio v3 300w (can be used as monoblock) for $81 or May be with larger power supply at $140. Start with one and if not enough based on distance you sitting from the speaker and volume levels you are listening to try two of these.
If still not satisfied try the hyped NCx500 amps.
If still not satisfied try the hyped NCx500 amps.
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If you force me to choose between those three, It'd be the YBA Heritage A200 due to the following reason alone:
- More power and rated at 4 ohm which is suitable to your speakers nom. Z (2 x 165 W @ 4 ohm)
Yamaha R-N1000A if it must be new. No Audiophoolery with this one, no dead tree carcass accidently dropped inside. Just a classy looking, well built relatively powerful army swiss knife of amplifiers.
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I'll agree, but again I can't find any independent measurements...
The room correction alone would make this the best pick.
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My audio setup will be located next to a few electronics that create EMI
Such as?
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