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What's the last word on audio cable?

boxerfan88

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Nice science video about electrons movement inside a cable/circuit, indirectly showing that cables do matter.


Question is how audible/inaudible the difference is…
 

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That's actually a pretty good video. Very nice explanation of ohms law with well put together analogies.

I'm not sure I understand your question. Indirectly showing that cables do matter? What does that mean? Has anyone ever said they don't?

Question is how audible/inaudible the difference is…

You don't know how audible the difference is in what? That had nothing to do with audio.
 

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indirectly showing that cables do matter.

It shows how resistance "matters". The other two things that "matters" are inductance and capacitance, since they descibe frequency dependent resistance.

One thing it definitely does not show, neither directly nor indirectly, is how fancy "audiophile cables" matters... because they don't.

The only things that matter are the ones resulting in audible changes to the sound waves hitting your ears. No amount of visual analogies can change that.
 

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Every cable is imbued with a little bit of inexplicable magic. Apparently, the expensive ones get a double dose.
 

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Nice science video about electrons movement inside a cable/circuit, indirectly showing that cables do matter.
Well yes, it shows that they matter in that if you don't have them nothing works.

It doesn't show that they matter in terms of influencing audio quality - once the basic (and inexpensive) requirements of robustness and sufficiently low resistance are met.
 

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14 gauge wire from the hardware store or wherever you can get it. Stranded or solid. It works for most any distance in a house. For short runs 16 gauge is good enough. The purity of the copper is high enough so that hyper-pure premium wire makes no audible difference. This has been substantiated in many well controlled double blind tests. Wire is one audio component that should never be a source of worry as long as the connections are good and the wire is intact.
 

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I don't agree, in Italian audio cable becomes "cavo audio" so for me the last word is audio
Love it ... even with only two words to play with a "cable" thread refuses to just @#£_&-++ die! :D
 

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Do not talk about cables. Open your speaker and look at your cables inside. Then you can see your last cables, and see what is sufficiently. :facepalm:
 

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Every cable is imbued with a little bit of inexplicable magic. Apparently, the expensive ones get a double dose.
it's more complicated than that. for every $10000, the dose double - not exactly, but almost. So if you pay $50k then your "goodness" in your cable is 30 times better than a dollar one. yes you have to pay that much because it's magic. if magic was cheap, we would have lived in Harry Potter world.

/s
 

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Do not talk about cables. Open your speaker and look at your cables inside. Then you can see your last cables, and see what is sufficiently. :facepalm:
Wait -- did you see these guys?


A carefully refined crossover circuit seamlessly blends the drivers together. Every component in the crossover network is audio grade. Inductors all feature air core construction and generous wire gauges. All capacitors are polypropylene types designed specifically for HiFi use. Internal wire and connectors are specified to assure no weak links exist in the crossover system. The physical realization of the circuit is point to point wired with the tweeter and woofer sections separately housed within the enclosure reducing cross talk. Each section is enclosed in a damped box that serves double duty breaking up the enclosure’s internal volume standing waves further lowering resonance effects.
[emphasis added]

:) ;) :cool::facepalm:
 

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With reasonable length and construction, inductance and capacitance seldom impact audio frequency dependent impedance.

Exactly. But some of the kilobuck "audiophile" cables probably has a very unreasonable construction.

Even when the cable actually "does something", people are just paying through the nose for the most primitive form of EQ'ing imaginable.
 

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