So who would have thought that two Andrew Jones models would turn up in a "worst speaker" thread?
The philips dome tweeter was the worst but never the less used by lots of makers like DCM Time Windows.
Well, he is in the business. I have to go into making some witch burning heretical statements to rephrase what he probably means. He stated, and its true, that he can get most of the way there with his engineering skills as he knows from his years of work how to do that. Then at the end he can tweak them as needed. You have to remember that the things that ASR members may obsess over and spend 30 pages arguing/discussing over are in the end not all that important. If you were paying $20,000 for them that would be fine. But in inexpensive ELAC's lower cost lines, you will get what that price point will support. Luckily, some engineers are making some very good inexpensive speakers nowadays. So, he is using "in the business" quick and dirty statements that the average person doesn't really understand. A nice thread to check out is the PS Audio FR30. Chris the engineer from PS Audio drops a lot of wisdom into his posts. So, in the end, what Amir does in testing these speakers is weed out the junk and stuff no one should buy from the pretty good to very good for various price points. By using Amir's tests you can really get what you pay for and not have buyers remorse. So, I'm done rambling..........
It's also worth pointing out that he was working in a different continent for a company that builds its product in different locations and already had a long standing design team and tradition.Well, he is in the business. I have to go into making some witch burning heretical statements to rephrase what he probably means. He stated, and its true, that he can get most of the way there with his engineering skills as he knows from his years of work how to do that. Then at the end he can tweak them as needed. You have to remember that the things that ASR members may obsess over and spend 30 pages arguing/discussing over are in the end not all that important. If you were paying $20,000 for them that would be fine. But in inexpensive ELAC's lower cost lines, you will get what that price point will support. Luckily, some engineers are making some very good inexpensive speakers nowadays. So, he is using "in the business" quick and dirty statements that the average person doesn't really understand. A nice thread to check out is the PS Audio FR30. Chris the engineer from PS Audio drops a lot of wisdom into his posts. So, in the end, what Amir does in testing these speakers is weed out the junk and stuff no one should buy from the pretty good to very good for various price points. By using Amir's tests you can really get what you pay for and not have buyers remorse. So, I'm done rambling..........
Just wondering where you heard the Adante? What was the set up? I own a pair and it's one of the best sounding speakers I've listened/owned. It took the place of B&W 805 D3 and Vela. Adante requires good source and amp matching like any high-end speakers. The bass is so clean and neutral (although it is best paired with a decent sub), and the midrange/highs are its crown jewel. They remind me of Wilson Benesch sound. I think Adante flopped not because of its quality, but because of the perception that Andrew-Jones-branded Elacs were a budget line.
Any novice who is interested in audio can put together a 2 way stand mount or bookshelf with a 6 1/2 inch and a dome tweeter.
OK. I heard the Adante in a dealer's demo room. Not a large room, but well prepared, and everything properly set up (I have to say most dealers don't do this very well in these parts). I wasn't there looking for speakers, but for a CD or SACD player. The amp was an Esoteric F-07, which I don't know but should have been plenty good enough. No sub. Since I was mainly there to find out about the disc players in terms of ergonomics, remotes and facilities, having a "not so good" speaker was a bit less bothersome. And this was during covid, I was let in "between appointments" so I was basically left alone for almost an hour and couldn't really ask for a different speaker to be set up. I have to say that my experience couldn't have been more different to yours. I'd started with the Arcam SACD player which was disappointing and I thought that it may have been responsible (or indeed my prejudice was coming through as the player didn't play some of my discs either) but the Esoteric players in the room, and the Denon 110 anniversary player would all have to have been awful as well.
when it's that lacking in bass and presence region, I wonder if it's some kind of dud drivers like in Amirm's Behringer review, or even worse, the dealer's room just have it set up in some null zones? not sure what was your country's practice, but in my place, most dealers don't really know about setups, they just place some stands on nice looking locations in a big room, more often than not the speaker driver will locate in the not recommended 2-4 foot from the front wall, creating massive nulls
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I do agree that demo rooms are not good places to test the speakers. I also have seen a few users report the speaker cabinet not completely sealed between the cavities. This would explain why no bass with potentially mid/highs being smeared as well.
I do agree with this. Some dealers are better than others. At the extreme end, I’ve mentioned another bizarre experience where a million dollar system (that’s Australian dollars, but still) was beaten for the most important aspects of music by a customer’s phone! Now that was definitely poor setup.
They loook cool tho
Ewwwwww. I have seen enough 901s that have crumbled and disintegrated into dust to not like the look. They can't handle UV light.
They look very cool.
Almost purchased them before even hearing them which was my reason for not buying
They sound muffled and mid'rangey.
I feel like I could stir up some annoyance by pairing the 901s with some audioquest cables hehe
