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What is the BEST amp below $200? and $150
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Forget about Allo then, they have pretty expensive shipping to Malaysia. I was about to buy their Digione Player but had to hold off my intention for now as I'm looking for alternatives.
How about Loxjie A10 then? It is based on TPA3116 and has pretty good sound quality IMO. I bought mine from Shopee and received within 2 weeks. But note that it has pretty high gain (32dB if I'm not mistaken) so you might hear some hiss if you have very high sensitivity speakers.
How about Loxjie A10 then? It is based on TPA3116 and has pretty good sound quality IMO. I bought mine from Shopee and received within 2 weeks. But note that it has pretty high gain (32dB if I'm not mistaken) so you might hear some hiss if you have very high sensitivity speakers.
It doesn't take a lot of power to fill a small room when bass is limited by speaker size, and the Toppping, Aiyima and I.AM.D. ChiFi mini-amps have all performed well.
And I have no idea what happened with the two Topping PA3's a s far as them dying - no smoke, no noise - they just stopped working. I use surge protection, but mains voltage is a bit high here - typically 25-27vac with lots of sags and surges. But I use surge protection - and other electronics have not failed. Topping PA3's do not have a reputation for failure, so perhaps I was just unlucky. But I wasn't ready to test the "3rd time's a charm" meme.
And I have no idea what happened with the two Topping PA3's a s far as them dying - no smoke, no noise - they just stopped working. I use surge protection, but mains voltage is a bit high here - typically 25-27vac with lots of sags and surges. But I use surge protection - and other electronics have not failed. Topping PA3's do not have a reputation for failure, so perhaps I was just unlucky. But I wasn't ready to test the "3rd time's a charm" meme.
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I happen to be using an I.AM.D V200BT currently for a desktop/bedroom system, and it does indeed perform well:
The V200 is actually rather popular over at diyAudio.com as they like to modify them, although I've not found the need to do so with mine. Someone there actually did a performance analysis of it, along with a few other inexpensive amps from Aliexpress - I've no idea about the equipment and parameters used for their analysis:
The V200 is actually rather popular over at diyAudio.com as they like to modify them, although I've not found the need to do so with mine. Someone there actually did a performance analysis of it, along with a few other inexpensive amps from Aliexpress - I've no idea about the equipment and parameters used for their analysis:
I'll second Eetu's recommendation to save a bit more and get into a better piece of equipment. That being said..
If you can find a good inexpensive stereo receiver or amp on the used market (be careful with the old stuff, 40 year old electrolytic capacitors are often way out of spec, leaky, high ESR etc.. But if you find something for less than $100, you can then pick up something like the Schiit Modi 3 or Topping D10 for $100 and have an excellent sounding combination that fits your budget.
For example, for a friend of mine who has an Onkyo TX-910 receiver, I recommended a Schiit Modi 3. They just received it yesterday and have it connected to one of the receiver's line-ins. The sound from the modest system (driving a pair of BIC DV62si speakers) is impressive.
If you can find a good inexpensive stereo receiver or amp on the used market (be careful with the old stuff, 40 year old electrolytic capacitors are often way out of spec, leaky, high ESR etc.. But if you find something for less than $100, you can then pick up something like the Schiit Modi 3 or Topping D10 for $100 and have an excellent sounding combination that fits your budget.
For example, for a friend of mine who has an Onkyo TX-910 receiver, I recommended a Schiit Modi 3. They just received it yesterday and have it connected to one of the receiver's line-ins. The sound from the modest system (driving a pair of BIC DV62si speakers) is impressive.
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https://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/a-9010_manual_en.pdf
43dB SINAD for 1kHz, 4Ohm @ rated power. Will be better at lower power but how much? 10dB? 15? Still bad.
If with the advice already given you are still completely undecided and likely to buy something based on subjective recommendations, then just get the Aiyima 3251 + 32V 5A AC/DC adapter. It isn't any known brand and the quality is cheap but at least it's based on well-performing technology (for the cost), unlike some old used stuff that never measured well and might have worsened over time. If it doesn't meet your expectations for some reason, at least it's not $200 wasted on an ice age audio device.
https://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/a-9010_manual_en.pdf
43dB SINAD for 1kHz, 4Ohm @ rated power. Will be better at lower power but how much? 10dB? 15? Still bad.
If with the advice already given you are still completely undecided and likely to buy something based on subjective recommendations, then just get the Aiyima 3251 + 32V 5A AC/DC adapter. It isn't any known brand and the quality is cheap but at least it's based on well-performing technology (for the cost), unlike some old used stuff that never measured well and might have worsened over time. If it doesn't meet your expectations for some reason, at least it's not $200 wasted on an ice age audio device.
How about an ICEpower 50ASX2SE with a Case-Kit from Ghent Audio? It will be around $200 and it has measured very well for it's price class here.
Actually if anyone knows of any solution that measures better for around ~$200 I'd be interested to know. I haven't found anything myself.
Actually if anyone knows of any solution that measures better for around ~$200 I'd be interested to know. I haven't found anything myself.
The OP mentioned that he will use a computer as a source so he needs a usb dac. I have been quite happy with the Behringer uca 202 in secundary and legacy systems. Alternatively for streaming there is also the CCA with both analogue and optical output. The inbuilt DAC is good enough and widens the options for an amp.
Yeah but in this thread they're asking about a dedicated amp and that he prefers a separate dac and amp.
At a budget price point for a separate dac there are plenty of options in the "ok" range but they would probably be comparable to the line out from a computer anyway. It looks like most of the well-performing solutions under $70 or so are for headphone out only. For the next step up a Topping D10 or E30 would be pretty much all you need.
At a budget price point for a separate dac there are plenty of options in the "ok" range but they would probably be comparable to the line out from a computer anyway. It looks like most of the well-performing solutions under $70 or so are for headphone out only. For the next step up a Topping D10 or E30 would be pretty much all you need.
That 25 dollar Behringer usb dac is not perfect but clearly better both in terms of measurements and audibly than motherboard dacs, particularly on laptops (most macbooks excepted). With it you can use any cheap and cheerful integrated amp with analogue inputs.
Since dacs are relatively good he needs to spend as much as possible of the budget on the amp.
A dirt cheap usb dac with volume control may be even better. Add a Behringer A800 and he is done.
Since dacs are relatively good he needs to spend as much as possible of the budget on the amp.
A dirt cheap usb dac with volume control may be even better. Add a Behringer A800 and he is done.
Actually, most Macbooks have pretty rough audio as compared to the likes of Thinkpad and even some (emphasis on SOME) HP notebooks. On the noisy side due to lack of filter capacitors in effort to save board space. A good DAC is essential for critical listening. The circuit is pretty much straight off-the-shelf generic. Fine for casual music listening but not much more.
But then, if you are listening on lightweight headphones on, say, an airplane, any onboard audio will be fine. I have seen pictures of a few people with the clutter made up of their laptop, an external battery pack, a DAC and a headphone amplifier on a flight. Just silly.
But then, if you are listening on lightweight headphones on, say, an airplane, any onboard audio will be fine. I have seen pictures of a few people with the clutter made up of their laptop, an external battery pack, a DAC and a headphone amplifier on a flight. Just silly.
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