Topping DX1 mini desktop DAC & AMP

[G1zm0]

I couldn't really tell any difference using my 400SE and 4XX.

Did you tried this exact song? 00:30 - 00:40. because I myself wasn't able to tell outputs apart, until this specific song and part.

 

[Jose Hidalgo]

Hi everybody. I wonder if this little beast could be used directly with a smartphone. It would be less portable than a Topping G5, but also three times less expensive
Granted it would also drain the smartphone faster since it doesn't have its own battery, but it shouldn't be a big problem if the smartphone has a big battery. If you know a better solution for 99 €/$, just let me know.

The intended use here wouldn't be "walking / inside a pocket" like the G5. It would rather be "sunbathing on a garden / terrace". So just relaxing in a deckchair, with the smartphone and the DX1 sitting close on a coffee table. Would that work? Would the DX1 be recognized by the smartphone (possibly a Redmi Note 9 Pro), with no need for drivers and such?

Bonus question : which Android EQ app would be best for applying some Oratory presets to the few headphones we have? It would have to work with Spotify, since all the music will come from there.

Thanks!

 

[G1zm0]

Hi everybody. I wonder if this little beast could be used directly with a smartphone. It would be less portable than a Topping G5, but also three times less expensive
Granted it would also drain the smartphone faster since it doesn't have its own battery, but it shouldn't be a big problem if the smartphone has a big battery. If you know a better solution for 99 €/$, just let me know.

The intended use here wouldn't be "walking / inside a pocket" like the G5. It would rather be "sunbathing on a garden / terrace". So just relaxing in a deckchair, with the smartphone and the DX1 sitting close on a coffee table. Would that work? Would the DX1 be recognized by the smartphone (possibly a Redmi Note 9 Pro), with no need for drivers and such?

Bonus question : which Android EQ app would be best for applying some Oratory presets to the few headphones we have? It would have to work with Spotify, since all the music will come from there.

Thanks!

Yes it works with a smartphone, I tested it with pixel 6. Not sure about iphone tho.

As for EQ, try wavelet

 

[CedarX]

Yes it works with a smartphone, I tested it with pixel 6. Not sure about iphone tho.

As for EQ, try wavelet

Stating the obvious: unlike the G5, the DX1 has no battery, and would be powered by the smartphone. May or may not be an issue depending on the smartphone and the intended use scenario.

 

[Jose Hidalgo]

Stating the obvious: unlike the G5, the DX1 has no battery, and would be powered by the smartphone. May or may not be an issue depending on the smartphone and the intended use scenario.

Please read my message again, carefully this time. Line 2 for the battery, line 4 for the scenario.

 

[CedarX]

Please read my message again, carefully this time. Line 2 for the battery, line 4 for the scenario.

Sorry, missed that!

 

[staticV3]

Bonus question : which Android EQ app would be best for applying some Oratory presets to the few headphones we have? It would have to work with Spotify, since all the music will come from there.

Wavelet and Poweramp EQ are your only options afaik.
Wavelet is easy to use as you can load all AutoEQ presets with a single tap.
Disadvantage is that AutoEQ uses a different target with less bass (Not stock Harman) and the filter parameters are computer generated.

Poweramp EQ on the other hand gives you the option to apply the preset from oratory's PDFs one to one, but it's a bit tedious to enter everything by hand.

 

[G1zm0]

Wavelet and Poweramp EQ are your only options afaik.
Wavelet is easy to use as you can load all AutoEQ presets with a single tap.
Disadvantage is that AutoEQ uses a different target with less bass (Not stock Harman) and the filter parameters are computer generated.

Poweramp EQ on the other hand gives you the option to apply the preset from oratory's PDFs one to one, but it's a bit tedious to enter everything by hand.

And also as I understand it poweramp EQ wouldn't work for spotify, right?

 

[staticV3]

And also as I understand it poweramp EQ wouldn't work for spotify, right?

Poweramp EQ works systemwide, including with Spotify.

 

[Jose Hidalgo]

Then I'll use Poweramp EQ I don't mind entering presets by hand. In our case it's only 4 Harman presets, plus eventually 4 Optimum HiFi presets.
And it's once and for all: we don't intend to change our headphone collection anytime soon, unless something exceptional comes up. Thanks @staticV3 !

 

[Gigachad]

I measured the headphone out of the DX1 for anyone interested: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...asurement-of-topping-dx1-headphone-out.44596/

 

[G1zm0]

I measured the headphone out of the DX1 for anyone interested: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...asurement-of-topping-dx1-headphone-out.44596/

Link's broken I guess

 

[Gigachad]

Link's broken I guess

It's not broken, some mod probably withdrew its publication because I didn't have the disclaimer that my setup measured 2.5dB worse as Wolf in the initial post.

 

[staticV3]

some mod probably withdrew its publication because I didn't have the disclaimer that my setup measured 2.5dB worse as Wolf in the initial post.

Definitely not what happened, and the link works fine.

 

[Gigachad]

Definitely not what happened.

Dunno it's cool, I'll take the advice and remeasure and edit it anway.

 

[staticV3]

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Dunno it's cool, I'll take the advice and remeasure and edit it anway.

That's standard procedure for any new member's first threads and has nothing to do with the specific contents of said thread.

 

[Gigachad]

That's standard procedure for any new member's first threads and has nothing to do with the specific contents of said thread.

Ok, well I was just surprised because someone had liked it already, so I assumed it was public and then retracted. The iBasso thread I had published before that one also and that is public.

 

[Gigachad]

I corrected my measurement now, here is the link to the updated post: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...asurement-of-topping-dx1-headphone-out.44596/
Measurement is slightly better than that of L7 now, probably unit variance. However we don't 100% reach line out SINAD with the Headphone out. Those 1.6 dB are neglible though I think, my unit sounds great and I am enjoying it a lot!

 

[Gigachad]

I can recommend the Direct DSD mode with HQPlayer feeding the DAC. It's entirely subjective and unscientific, but it improves the sound, emotionality, depth and microresolution a lot for me. Might just be placebo, but hey, why not enjoy placebo if it improves the music listening?

 

[staticV3]

Might just be placebo, but hey, why not enjoy placebo if it improves the music listening?

If HQPlayer were free then sure, but it costs $360.