The quest for my hyper speaker - Very Large room dilemma

[Mr. Widget]

Well, I looked into them: videowalls NG. The center channel solution, where the voices sound 16 feet wide, is an abomination. It sprays a ridiculous amount of sound towards the screen, thus creating more and more reflections.

A couple of things here... first, I didn't realize you were referring to a micro LED video wall... I assumed a woven or perforated screen. You are right, dealing with micro LED walls are tough for audio. Meyer Sound has a solution that seems to work pretty well by bouncing the sound off the face of the screen, but it wouldn't be suitable in your application.

Depending on the design of the line array, they don't have to lose control off axis. They can be quite well behaved.

For a micro LED video walls, Wisdom makes a special purpose center channel line source that will still give you the -3dB per doubling of the distance that would be helpful in your application. One of those flanked by a pair of their normal line source systems would really help out in the room you are describing.

 

[CINERAMAX]

A couple of things here... first, I didn't realize you were referring to a micro LED video wall... I assumed a woven or perforated screen. You are right, dealing with micro LED walls are tough for audio. Meyer Sound has a solution that seems to work pretty well by bouncing the sound off the face of the screen, but it wouldn't be suitable in your application.

Depending on the design of the line array, they don't have to lose control off axis. They can be quite well behaved.

For a micro LED video walls, Wisdom makes a special purpose center channel line source that will still give you the -3dB per doubling of the distance that would be helpful in your application. One of those flanked by a pair of their normal line source systems would really help out in the room you are describing.

In evaluating audio solutions for micro LED video walls, the offerings from Wisdom Audio and Meyer Sound revealed challenges. Wisdom Audio's horizontal line arrays lacked the precise imaging required, falling short of advanced center channel solutions' performance. The Meyer Sound system at Netflix, utilizing sound reflection, led to auditory fatigue, deviating from desired immersive experiences.

Expert listeners and Sony video wall engineers expressed a clear preference for the audio setup depicted above, surpassing Wisdom and Meyer Sound's solutions with its clarity and engagement. This highlights the need for innovative center channel solutions that align with micro LED video walls' visual clarity, moving beyond traditional approaches for a superior auditory experience. Thus far controlled directivity range matched coax solutions (3 tweeters for the far field single for the nearfield), with rectangular tilted rectangular cabinets and not the trapezoidal the "pre-tilted" kind in over under centre solutions is the best approach for 2 rows only. The Home theater of the future is wider than deeper.

 

[CINERAMAX]

I found these concept images for and MEG range matched coax cardioid bass concept that was previously proposed but not executed.$$$$$

 

[Bjorn]

Seems like this has become a thread for non coherent sound, and speakers with as much as phase issues and lobing as possible.

 

[PGansz]

Is there any chance above zero that this thread was legit?

Mid 30's gazillionaire doc with a chalet, presumably 6'3" 220lbs, 12 pack abs and four 25yr old blondes for girlfriends...what a waste of time.

 

[prerich]

Seems like this has become a thread for non coherent sound, and speakers with as much as phase issues and lobing as possible.

Well, from the list of requirements - the OP's main concerns appear to be high sensitivity, high SPL, and extremely low distortion.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Just imagine the OP and MKR eventually buying the same speakers lol

 

[multichannel_guy]

Is there any chance above zero that this thread was legit?

Mid 30's gazillionaire doc with a chalet, presumably 6'3" 220lbs, 12 pack abs and four 25yr old blondes for girlfriends...what a waste of time.

Are you envious of the OP guy? Count your blessings instead....or you could go to med school, make a gazillion, stretch yourself to 6'3, get ab implants and pay for 4 escorts.

 

[PGansz]

Are you envious of the OP guy? Count your blessings instead....or you could go to med school, make a gazillion, stretch yourself to 6'3, get ab implants and pay for 4 escorts.

It's the internet...consider the course of this thread and the total non-conclusion or follow-up from OP.

I can't address your question because then I'll be seen as douchey which I absolutely don't want because I'm not.

The point isn't me, it's:

What's more likely in this scenario?

 

[Jimi Floyd]

I am unwatching the thread

 

[MKR]

Just imagine the OP and MKR eventually buying the same speakers lol

Whoever OP is it sure ain’t me if that is what you are insinuating

 

[Pearljam5000]

Whoever OP is it sure ain’t me if that is what you are insinuating

Lol no
I'm just saying both of you have long threads about end game speakers so it would be funny if you both somehow end up with the same speakers .

 

[MKR]

Lol no
I'm just saying both of you have long threads about end game speakers so it would be funny if you both somehow end up with the same speakers .

Got it, thanks for the clarification… well, OP has a MUCH bigger listening space than I do, so even though I am needing (wanting ) a system with high SPL capability, OP definitely needs some beast speakers, which may result in a different choice. With that said, certainly just about all of the speakers on my later short list would definitely suffice for OP use case! Or at least larger version models from same manufacturer. It’s a bummer OP disappeared and we don‘t know the status.

 

[Adi777]

Seems like this has become a thread for non coherent sound, and speakers with as much as phase issues and lobing as possible.

Hi. You write about this Geithain system?

 

[Bjorn]

Hi. You write about this Geithain system?

It was a general comment in response to the many pictures of setups shown lately and not aimed at a specific speaker or speaker brand.
Multiple drivers cause acoustic issues. There's a good reason a certified LEDE room (back in the 70s and 80s) required a speaker with few crossovers.
It's only the CBT design that has overcome this.

And IMO getting the crossover far away from the sensitive area is an absolute requirement for high-end sound. Not matter how good a speaker is in several areas, if it has a crossover in the 1-8 KHz region I don't care much for it as I know how important cohesive sound is to me. It's quite revealing to do AB tests of this.

 

[thewas]

And IMO getting the crossover far away from the sensitive area is an absolute requirement for high-end sound. Not matter how good a speaker is in several areas, if it has a crossover in the 1-8 KHz region I don't care much for it as I know how important cohesive sound is to me. It's quite revealing to do AB tests of this.

A typical audiophile myth which is usually for the main instruments and voices region (300-3000 Hz) adapted to suit your own designs... (which like every loudspeaker have other disadvantages as everything is a compromise). By the way not really sensible AB tests can be made for such as to have different crossover regions someone needs different drivers, directivities etc so in the end it will be an apple to pear comparison.