Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review

[Doodski]

Probably meaningless, or more suited for the Call for Humor thread...

It looks like Tekton has a new speaker: https://tektondesign.com/product/sp...es-control-monitor-red-finish-5000-delivered/
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For $5,000, it can act as a studio monitor "workhorse", an audiophile "dream", and a party "champ" and, most importantly, the feet are already installed! There is an "ultimate crossover" option for $1,600 (!!! What the...??? For that amount of money, I'd like to know what it is about for sure!).
It also has the usual tweeter array... and I wonder if the 4x 10" transducers qualify as a "woofer array" ???

No trace of actual measurements... I wonder if Mr. Alexander bought himself a new Ferrari (see the T-shirt !!!) instead of investing in proper measurement equipment...
Oh and they finally erased the "Days without incident = 0" on the board behind the speaker: way to go Tekton !!!

I just watch the speaker experts here at ASR because they embarrass me with my puny knowledge about speakers comparatively. So... Doesn't that wide front baffle create issues?

 

[AaronJ]

I wonder if he buys Ferraris to fit in with the luxury crowd in the same way that Alex Jones claims to wear Rolexes to blend in with the socialites.

 

[CedarX]

I would love to see what would happen if Eric Speakergenius bought a Ferrari which developed a problem during the warranty period that the dealer was unable to fix even after numerous attempts.

Easy fix: the dealer just needs to tell Eric to install the 4 wheels in the bottom... Runs much better !!!

 

[Roland68]

I just watch the speaker experts here at ASR because they embarrass me with my puny knowledge about speakers comparatively. So... Doesn't that wide front baffle create issues?

Not if you add 1 or 2 Ascendo 50" subwoofers...

 

[Salt]

I just watch the speaker experts here at ASR because they embarrass me with my puny knowledge about speakers comparatively. So... Doesn't that wide front baffle create issues?

That might do or not ... measurements would tell ...

 

[Descartes]

Probably meaningless, or more suited for the Call for Humor thread...

It looks like Tekton has a new speaker: https://tektondesign.com/product/sp...es-control-monitor-red-finish-5000-delivered/
View attachment 381454

For $5,000, it can act as a studio monitor "workhorse", an audiophile "dream", and a party "champ" and, most importantly, the feet are already installed! There is an "ultimate crossover" option for $1,600 (!!! What the...??? For that amount of money, I'd like to know what it is about for sure!).
It also has the usual tweeter array... and I wonder if the 4x 10" transducers qualify as a "woofer array" ???

No trace of actual measurements... I wonder if Mr. Alexander bought himself a new Ferrari (see the T-shirt !!!) instead of investing in proper measurement equipment...
Oh and they finally erased the "Days without incident = 0" on the board behind the speaker: way to go Tekton !!!

Are there holes in the bottom?

 

[Vladimir Filevski]

Doesn't that wide front baffle create issues?

No, if front panel is well braced. There might be diffraction issues because of the small radius of panel edges... but majority of hi-fi loudspeaker boxes have sharp edges altogether, so it is OK.

 

[Ktacos]

No, if front panel is well braced. There might be diffraction issues because of the small radius of panel edges... but majority of hi-fi loudspeaker boxes have sharp edges

It's more complicated than that, thin baffle speakers with edges keep the diffraction products close to the driver so they are perceived much differently than wide baffle speakers with the same edge. The Grimm LS1 paper goes over how to do it well on large baffles, and the round overs required are quite large, but extremely beneficial.

Curious that tekton says "Audiophile on a budget?"

Idk about you but $5k USD ain't budget. That things woofers look like they probably have a lot issues if they're all playing the same thing. Of course we'll never know. Not that I even care to know.

 

[Doodski]

It's more complicated than that, thin baffle speakers with edges keep the diffraction products close to the driver so they are perceived much differently than wide baffle speakers with the same edge. The Grimm LS1 paper goes over how to do it well on large baffles, and the round overs required are quite large, but extremely beneficial.

I thought I read something about this issue in the past. Thank you for confirming that. Additionally I have tested sound with my hands operating as a flat baffle at my mouth and that sounds very different than a smaller flat baffle around it.

 

[Newman]

@Doodski how do you get a smaller flat baffle around your mouth than your hands?

 

[Doodski]

@Doodski how do you get a smaller flat baffle around your mouth than your hands?

Kinda like praying hands and then flatten them out with a space for your mouth and then speak. Alternatively walk to a wall with your back to the wall and speak and then try it in a corner. It's very obvious the differences are there for wider walls and less wide walls as well as corners.

 

[Doodski]

@Doodski how do you get a smaller flat baffle around your mouth than your hands?

Oh... just overlap the fingers to make it smaller.

 

[Newman]

okay......I won't pursue that further.

In answer to your original qn in #2561, a wide flat baffle with acoustically sharp edges does indeed create issues. Any sharp-edged baffle will create a series of peaks and dips in the frequency response, starting from the frequency corresponding to half a wavelength from the driver centre to the baffle edge, and 'oscillating' every multiple of that frequency. The larger the baffle, the lower the frequency at which this behaviour starts, and the smaller the interval between peaks and dips. I would call that 'generally undesirable'.

 

[Doodski]

okay......I won't pursue that further.

In answer to your original qn in #2561, a wide flat baffle with acoustically sharp edges does indeed create issues. Any sharp-edged baffle will create a series of peaks and dips in the frequency response, starting from the frequency corresponding to half a wavelength from the driver centre to the baffle edge, and 'oscillating' every multiple of that frequency. The larger the baffle, the lower the frequency at which this behaviour starts, and the smaller the interval between peaks and dips. I would call that 'generally undesirable'.

So it sounds boomy?

 

[Newman]

No, it is at higher frequencies than that. On a 300mm wide baffle the first peak will be at 1200 Hz.

You might be talking about baffle step, which is a different effect, whereby forward-firing bass output reduces below a frequency at which the speaker starts to act like a monopole and divert energy backwards. The wider the baffle, the lower this frequency. But there is no more reason to call this 'boomy' than to call the narrow baffle's sound 'thin': it's just a matter of designing properly for whatever your speaker's width is, and giving appropriate speaker placement advice to buyers.

Baffle step is not actually a classical diffraction effect, which I took to be your interest from post #2569.

cheers

 

[Dialectic]

Probably meaningless, or more suited for the Call for Humor thread...

It looks like Tekton has a new speaker: https://tektondesign.com/product/sp...es-control-monitor-red-finish-5000-delivered/
View attachment 381454

For $5,000, it can act as a studio monitor "workhorse", an audiophile "dream", and a party "champ" and, most importantly, the feet are already installed! There is an "ultimate crossover" option for $1,600 (!!! What the...??? For that amount of money, I'd like to know what it is about for sure!).
It also has the usual tweeter array... and I wonder if the 4x 10" transducers qualify as a "woofer array" ???

No trace of actual measurements... I wonder if Mr. Alexander bought himself a new Ferrari (see the T-shirt !!!) instead of investing in proper measurement equipment...
Oh and they finally erased the "Days without incident = 0" on the board behind the speaker: way to go Tekton !!!

No one who wears that shirt owns a Ferrari.

 

[Doodski]

No, it is at higher frequencies than that. On a 300mm wide baffle the first peak will be at 1200 Hz.

I reads that as the X-over zone for many speaker designs.

there is no more reason to call this 'boomy' than to call the narrow baffle's sound 'thin': it's just a matter of designing properly for whatever your speaker's width is, and giving appropriate speaker placement advice to buyers.

OK.

 

[totti1965]

The feet are already installed - LMAO! So no lawyer is needed!

 

[Ktacos]

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I think the dude has some sort of disorder. It's really shifted from scummy salesman trying to keep his customers ignorant, to the guy lives in some delusion that he may not have control over.

 

[AaronJ]

I think the dude has some sort of disorder. It's really shifted from scummy salesman trying to keep his customers ignorant, to the guy lives in some delusion that he may not have control over.

Of course he has a disorder. This has been litigated to death in both threads dedicated to him.