Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review

[JSmith]

You are dishing a speaker

... who's dishing what now? They don't look so dishy to me.

Maybe you mean dissed, as in disrespected?

I'm quite happy to "diss" these speakers any day... they measure poorly and look horrible.


JSmith

 

[doug s.]

Every one of Tekton’s designs I look at offends my eyes and triggers a weird aural recoil. Just by looking at them.

Similar to Artcoustic in terms of multi-driver usage and no doubt similarly bad sounding. Unless you like it loud and in yer face.

i've only heard one model of the tektons - the original double impacts, when they 1st came out. they sounded great, especially at their given price point.

would i ever buy them? no. why? the same reason why i would never buy a tesla. the same reason why i would never shop amazon. the same reason i won't shop at home despot. the same reason i won't shop at walmart. the same reason i won't eat at chick fil-a. the same reason i don't get coffee at starbucks. the same reason i stopped buying barilla pasta and goya canned goods. i can't avoid everything i don't like, and i can't stop everything i don't like; and i can't stop what others do. but i do what i can that feels right for me.

ymmv,

doug s.

 

[G|force]

Yes (although sometimes two drivers would be used with the large multicell horns like those beautiful 1505s).
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Tekton -- if they said that -- would be wrong.
I imagine that the Tekton guy's heard 288 drivers on 1505 horns.
They can be pretty darned satisfying to listen to.

We all take an oath to only use such drivers and ancillary hardware for peaceful purposes, but of course they can also be weaponized.

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That dual manifold is awesome
Do you know what I mean? Do you you know do you know what I mean? Sghrsh.... Hey lee can you hear me now

 

[G|force]

Saved Mark, thanks
Manifolds bwa ha ha ha

 

[Theta]

... who's dishing what now? They don't look so dishy to me.

Maybe you mean dissed, as in disrespected?

I'm quite happy to "diss" these speakers any day... they measure poorly and look horrible.


JSmith

Sorry, English is not my first language I meant dissed. Could you post the link to the measures.

 

[JSmith]

Sorry, English is not my first language I meant dissed.

No problems, all good, just having a lend of you (i.e. a little joke).

Could you post the link to the measures.

Yeah, page 1 of this thread;

Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review

This is a review, listening tests, equalization and detailed measurements of the Tekton (Mini) M-Lore speaker. It is on kind loan from a member and costs $US 750 a pair. As you see, this is a mini-tower speaker if there is such a thing. I had to put a 6 inch stand under it to get the tweeter...

www.audiosciencereview.com

JSmith

 

[mhardy6647]

Do you know what I mean? Do you you know do you know what I mean? Sghrsh.... Hey lee can you hear me now

"Yes, Stan, from over here in the next time zone!"

 

[RickS]

Sorry, English is not my first language I meant dissed. Could you post the link to the measures.

Understandable, but before you accuse ASR members of Tekton bashing, we mainly judge on the facts first. Many Tekton claims do not stand up well to more than casual scrutiny. The measures are at the start of the thread, but they are not the whole story. If English is a challenge, suggest sticking to technical points.

The designer could redeem himself as he promised he would post measurements for his newer speakers. Recent posts here talk of several new designs but see no posted measurements that would lend a lot of credibility to him both personally and technically.

 

[teched58]

That dual manifold is awesome
Do you know what I mean? Do you you know do you know what I mean? Sghrsh.... Hey lee can you hear me now

The song @G|force is referencing is Do You Know What I Mean? by Lee Michaels, which reached number 6 in the Top 40 in the summer of 1971.
Here's more:


It's got 14 drivers and I don't know why
So I sold the speaker to my best friend
Do you know what I mean? Uh huh

Her and Eric were stepping out
Her and Eric didn't know I'd found out
That he can't read spins, uh-huh
Do you know what I mean?

And then she said
Eric, you've been promising measurements for nearly four years
I'm not expecting them anymore, and I don't have no tears
If you ever do, it'll be really too late
Better find yourself another customer
Better find another woo woo customer
Better find another field.

Woo...

 

[Theta]

The song @G|force is quoting is Do You Know What I Mean? by Lee Michaels, which reached number 6 in the Top 40 in the summer of 1971.
Here's more:


It's got 14 drivers and I don't know why
So I sold the speaker to my best friend
Do you know what I mean? Uh huh

Her and Eric were stepping out
Her and Eric didn't know I'd found out
That he can't read spins, uh-huh
Do you know what I mean?

And then she said
Eric, you've been promising measurements for nearly four years
I'm not expecting them anymore, and I don't have no tears
If you ever do, it'll be really too latre
Better find yourself another customer
Better find another woo woo customer
Better find another field.

Woo...

Lee Michaels made some great LP's. Just him on Hammond organ and vocals and a drummer. He also created some very good restaurants called "Killer Shrimp".

 

[mhardy6647]

The song @G|force is referencing is Do You Know What I Mean? by Lee Michaels, which reached number 6 in the Top 40 in the summer of 1971.
Here's more:


It's got 14 drivers and I don't know why
So I sold the speaker to my best friend
Do you know what I mean? Uh huh

Her and Eric were stepping out
Her and Eric didn't know I'd found out
That he can't read spins, uh-huh
Do you know what I mean?

And then she said
Eric, you've been promising measurements for nearly four years
I'm not expecting them anymore, and I don't have no tears
If you ever do, it'll be really too late
Better find yourself another customer
Better find another woo woo customer
Better find another field.

Woo...

I missed that!
I am deeply chagrined.
I love that song!
It also must be the (musically and instrumentally) simplest pop hit song ever recorded.
Although it does have that great pause in it -- like the Pointer Sisters' version of Springsteen's song Fire.

 

[Count Dacula]

I note yours so I understand your position, but I'm going to spin the whole thing anyway.
(what I write below is probably not news to you)

Far-fetched and improbable:
Purely theoretically, if you have a listening room where you with speakers that have anechoic flat FR but in your listening room, because of:

Room modes are the collection of resonances that exist in a room when the room is excited by an acoustic source such as a loudspeaker. Most rooms have their fundamental resonances in the 20 Hz to 200 Hz region, each frequency being related to one or more of the room's dimensions or a divisor thereof. These resonances affect the low-frequency low-mid-frequency response of a sound system in the room and are one of the biggest obstacles to accurate sound reproduction.

Room modes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

..that gives you to some valley or peak of 10-15 dB compared to speakers that anechoic have an opposite valley or peak so then in your listening room that will take out what your room acoustically creates. Then these non-flat anechoic speakers can sound better for you.
BUT, that is theoretically. There are many ifs and buts in the whole thing. You should know how your listening room works, how it works with the speakers placed in X location. Plus you have to find speakers that have this crazy FR. Practically impossible I would say. Which shows that no manufacturer creates speakers with custom crazy, cranky FR just to fit in a specific room. There are so many different rooms, so it is not possible to manufacture such speakers on a commercial basis.

Not far fetched:
If you have problems, or let's say challenges because it can be fixed, with a wonky FR, you fix that with EQ. That in the mentioned bass area but also higher up in frequency if necessary. If the speakers are EQ friendly, that is, and that is something that many people, here at ASR anyway, now check before buying.

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Incidentally, speakers that measure poorly, let's say high distortion, can sound better than low distortion speakers if the latter has a worse FR. So it's a question of how to weigh what is measured against each other by importance.

Speakers with narrow or wide dispersion. There, speakers measure differently. It falls outside the scope because it can be considered both good and/or bad. It depends on taste and preference.

How about "accuracy"? Saying that high distortion speakers can sound better is dismissing the flawed perceptions of the listener. I understand your premise, based on people's reported preferences, but I'll take the dry and accurate speaker mostly on principle. I guess someone would say a "monitor" sound, but like you said that's just a preference as well.

 

[Count Dacula]

Yes (although sometimes two drivers would be used with the large multicell horns like those beautiful 1505s).
View attachment 405320
Tekton -- if they said that -- would be wrong.
I imagine that the Tekton guy's heard 288 drivers on 1505 horns.
They can be pretty darned satisfying to listen to.

We all take an oath to only use such drivers and ancillary hardware for peaceful purposes, but of course they can also be weaponized.

View attachment 405321

 

[DanielT]

Done right, it's certainly possible to get a good two-way speaker with eight-inch bass drivers and one-inch tweeters suitable for the design.

With a low crossover point and waveguide, it gives this result:
(not my DIY)

My first diy speakers

Hello! This is my first try to do decent diy speakers and wanted to share some pictures. They use peerless hds 830869 woofer and sb26adc tweeter in 8" waveguide. They are still in progress so i will post more pics and info when i finish them. My plan is to try make a spinorama for these. There...

audiosciencereview.com

 

[norman bates]

pretty.

Nice and smooth helping tweeter diffraction problems.

Good job Jonazkur !!!!!!!!!!!!!

(from him) "I have pretty steep filter from 1500hz. "

 

[muslhead]

Understandable, but before you accuse ASR members of Tekton bashing, we mainly judge on the facts first. Many Tekton claims do not stand up well to more than casual scrutiny. The measures are at the start of the thread, but they are not the whole story. If English is a challenge, suggest sticking to technical points.

The designer could redeem himself as he promised he would post measurements for his newer speakers. Recent posts here talk of several new designs and see no posted measurements that would lend a lot of credibility to him both personally and technically.

Hopefully you arent holding your breath ... we need you around here