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System for bedroom :Genelec 8030+a sub, or Genelec 8050?

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It's a small room,unfortunately I haven't measured it(it's my parents house)
I'm going to sit fairly close to them so it's definitely nearfield.
What do you think is better, bigger monitors without a sub or 2 smaller ones + a sub?
 
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Also can the Neumann KH 750 sub work with Genelec monitors, or are there going to be problems integrating them?
 
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I'm flexible about where I'll sit I just can't decide
I'm afraid the 8030 will sound "smaller" than the 8050 but on the other hand maybe the 8030+ sub will actually have more bass and will have more spl because the sub will take some of the work.
 

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What do 8330 and 8340 have better sound-wise compared to 8030 or 8040?
Room EQ via GLM, I presume. Plus, the 8340 actually plays substantially louder than the 8040 (8040B barely surpasses 8030C in level handling, while 8340A almost reaches 8350 terrain). Bass handling still is likely to be mostly a matter of driver performance as excursion would be a greater factor than amplifier power, but still.
 

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What do 8330 and 8340 have better sound-wise compared to 8030 or 8040?
@AnalogSteph said most of it, and the crossover/subsonic filter being implemented in DSP allows them to be optimal. The 8340A and 8350A are actually kind of a niche, since the 8040B and 8050B have been left behind.
 
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How loud can you play them? They are in your parent's house. Are they for music or movies? My advice is to get 8030s level. It is likely you will like them. If you want explosions and your parents are out of the house, get a sub, in which case you will want 8030 level that work with GLM and a Genelec subwoofer.
 
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Is it possible to add a Neumann KH 750 sub to the Genelec monitors? The Genelec sub is just too expensive unfortunately
 

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Is it possible to add a Neumann KH 750 sub to the Genelec monitors? The Genelec sub is just too expensive unfortunately
Heresy! :eek:

No, but seriously, if you can live with the risk of being burned at the stake ;), I don't see why this would not be possible. There is some overlap between the KH750 output level settings (94, 100, 108, 114 dB @ 0 dBu in) and the 8030C input gain control range (between 94 and 106 dB @ 0 dBu in), so I imagine getting the levels dialled in would not be too problematic.
 
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Heresy!:eek:

No, but seriously, if you can live with the risk of being burned at the stake ;), I don't see why this would not be possible. There is some overlap between the KH750 output level settings (94, 100, 108, 114 dB @ 0 dBu in) and the 8030C input gain control range (between 94 and 106 dB @ 0 dBu in), so I imagine getting the levels dialled in would not be too problematic.
Not entirely the same thing obviously but I run a pair of 8020D's though an Adam Sub7 in my home office. I have the Adam with high pass filter at 85 Hz feeding (and taking the load off) the Genelecs. The combination sounds superb! The Adam sub has is cheaper than any Genelec, it's more powerful and has a remote control to adjust both volume and frequency. It's a great combo with the Genelecs.
 
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Do you have enough SPL? Do they sound like small speakers?
I think room size and listening distance is very important. I have a small home office - 3m x 2.5m - and in that space the 8020D's and Adam Sub7 go very loud indeed! I haven't even come close to them clipping.

But I am listening from 1m to 1.5m away. For a bigger room, you need more oomph. Horses for courses!
 
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And apologies for replying to myself, but just to add...

Personally I think you are FAR better off in a small room with smaller Genelecs and a sub, as opposed to big Genelecs. First of all the sub option will go way deeper. But more importantly, you have more control. Speakers that are too big can easily overpower a room with standing waves and room nodes, and the levels of bass cut afforded by the dip switches may not be enough. With a sub you can turn it way down if needs be, and you have more control over the level and slope of the bass enhancement.

It works staggeringly well in my home office and subjectively sounds absolutely superb.
 
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