Genelec System?

[roog]

Hi please excuse the novice question, but I am considering down sizing my floor standing passive hifi speakers to an active stand mounted solution based on Genelec 8341 x2 plus 7350 sub. Using GLM as room correction, it looks like the making of a really well thought out system. It is my understanding that Genelec products are marketed as studio near field solutions and i was wondering how such a system might sound as a domestic hifi system.
, My room is 6m (19.6ft) long x 3.3m (10.8ft) wide x 2.4m (7.9ft) high.

 

[bungle]

If you don’t need high SPL I think it will work fine. You may consider S360 too. It is pricier but perhaps start with that and start sparing for bigger sub.

 

[staticV3]

Genelec recommend the 8341A up to ~2-3m listening distance:

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[Mort]

7360a subs would be a better match according to my experience and Genelecs recommendation, especially for a room that size and modest spl.

 

[Ellebob]

I think they work great for a hifi system!

There is a ton of misinformation with the term nearfield and its use for the home market. Nearfield, midfield, farfield or main monitor are pro terms and basically have two criteria that needs to be met. One is that the sound is coherent at that distance. For instance a large tower speaker will not have coherent sound from its woofers, midranges and tweeter from a half meter away. This would not be considered a nearfield speaker. The other is SPL/ volume level. It ineeds to reach a certain volume at a given distance. The further away one listens, the larger speaker will be needed to reach that volume. In the home market not everyone listens that loud, so they might not need the larger speakers. If you want louder, you need a larger speaker like a tower in the home market or one of the larger monitors in the pro world.

If you sit further than 3m the sound is not going to all of a sudden turn to garbage and become distorted, crackling, scratchy or sound terrible. Sound disperses based off of physics. You will find consumer speakers that behave simiarly to these that people use for hifi. Their directivity is similar, their frequency response is similar. Their preference score is similar. Nothing about this means it can't be used further away except if a louder volume is desired then you need a larger speaker. The Kef R3 or R3 Meta come to mind for a similar design and people use them all the time for hifi listening more than 2-3m away. For some reason people think because this is labeled nearfield that you can't use it further away.

If these play loud enough for your needs than I think it is an excellent choice. I would go with the bigger sub as suggested if possible.

 

[roog]

I think they work great for a hifi system!

There is a ton of misinformation with the term nearfield and its use for the home market. Nearfield, midfield, farfield or main monitor are pro terms and basically have two criteria that needs to be met. One is that the sound is coherent at that distance. For instance a large tower speaker will not have coherent sound from its woofers, midranges and tweeter from a half meter away. This would not be considered a nearfield speaker. The other is SPL/ volume level. It ineeds to reach a certain volume at a given distance. The further away one listens, the larger speaker will be needed to reach that volume. In the home market not everyone listens that loud, so they might not need the larger speakers. If you want louder, you need a larger speaker like a tower in the home market or one of the larger monitors in the pro world.

If you sit further than 3m the sound is not going to all of a sudden turn to garbage and become distorted, crackling, scratchy or sound terrible. Sound disperses based off of physics. You will find consumer speakers that behave simiarly to these that people use for hifi. Their directivity is similar, their frequency response is similar. Their preference score is similar. Nothing about this means it can't be used further away except if a louder volume is desired then you need a larger speaker. The Kef R3 or R3 Meta come to mind for a similar design and people use them all the time for hifi listening more than 2-3m away. For some reason people think because this is labeled nearfield that you can't use it further away.

If these play loud enough for your needs than I think it is an excellent choice. I would go with the bigger sub as suggested if possible.

Thank you everyone, like you I puzzled over the near field thing if Linn Kans, BBC LS3/5A and modern day KEF LS50 loudspeakers were all acceptable, then why not smallish studio monitors?

I don't need it super loud, but ever since owning a 1990's KEF sub I have not been keen on them, but I see that Genelec seem to integrate them into their systems.

I would like to give the Genelec solution a try, I just have to pursued the boss they look OK in our lounge.

 

[roog]

Genelec recommend the 8341A up to ~2-3m listening distance:
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Thanks for the chart @staticV3

 

[roog]

7360a subs would be a better match according to my experience and Genelecs recommendation, especially for a room that size and modest spl.

Thanks for your advice @Mort and @bungle

 

[Mort]

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[Ellebob]

Thank you everyone, like you I puzzled over the near field thing if Linn Kans, BBC LS3/5A and modern day KEF LS50 loudspeakers were all acceptable, then why not smallish studio monitors?

Exactly!

If Hifi speakers were marketed in the pro world most bookshelf speakers would be labeled nearfield monitors.