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SVS 3000 Micro Subwoofer (announced)

yah i've thought about that, but it's a lot of cables and adapters that i'd prefer to not have to deal with, not to mention not driving the genelecs to spec. my music preferences are not that bass heavy. also i'm moving twice (or three times, i'm not even sure yet) over the next 3 months. if my new space allows me to get optimal wall spacing, i know from my ideal listening room tests that i won't even need a sub. i'd rather put the money into a second sub for the living room system for stereo low end. this is is my work desk system.
 
yah i've thought about that, but it's a lot of cables and adapters that i'd prefer to not have to deal with, not to mention not driving the genelecs to spec. my music preferences are not that bass heavy. also i'm moving twice (or three times, i'm not even sure yet) over the next 3 months. if my new space allows me to get optimal wall spacing, i know from my ideal listening room tests that i won't even need a sub. i'd rather put the money into a second sub for the living room system for stereo low end. this is is my work desk system.
Actually, the simplest solution would be inline passive xlr attenuators, like these: https://www.amazon.com/Shure-A15AS-Switchable-Attenuator-Phantom/dp/B0002J1JKY
 
but if i split the xlr and run a balanced input to unbalanced output converter i'm going to ground out one of the differential channels on the monitors as well, right?

i've spent enough time for now on this though. back to whence it came from. do note that when i got this i was running up against the low end of the 8030s i was demoing. the 8040s have a much richer midbass that i'm pretty happy with, and when the walls and room modes stop disagreeing with me, they reach the low end convincingly.

i have to say though, if you can locate the micro NOT under a table next to a sofa, it should be pretty adequate for most monitor-supporting needs, especially if you have roll-off on your monitors upward of 60hz

so, even though i'm returning mine, the situation is... situational. i highly recommend this to the space constrained.
 
The last thing I posted is just a thing you could plug between your preamp (dac) and the genelecs, that would bring their volume further down to match the sub better.

But I see, you're done with that, I wouldn't want to be buying any extra stuff if I was decided already, either. Good to hear firsthand experience with the svs, I'm kinda waiting on either this or the kef to arrive at my local shop and get that one. I wanna put it on the front wall, next to the right main. I can barely squeeze an 10" cube there, 11" would work if I move the mains right against the cabinet on the side ...
 
oh i misunderstood. i thought the attenuators were to splice the sub in. no worries.

right now the office doesnt have a solid wall between the living room and office and the desk backs up to the opening. i have a table sized finished plank of wood that might fit there to back the ports up against. that might help the lfe of the 8040s

one thing that really surprised me about the micro, other than the spl it put out at line level -- desk shaking -- was that it was really well behaved at higher frequencies. with the lpf at 70hz and the phases matched the hfe sounded very natural and blended with the 8030s nicely, which is no mean feat.

i was more impressed with this unit than the much more expensive and much larger genelec 7050
 
yah i've thought about that, but it's a lot of cables and adapters that i'd prefer to not have to deal with, not to mention not driving the genelecs to spec. my music preferences are not that bass heavy. also i'm moving twice (or three times, i'm not even sure yet) over the next 3 months. if my new space allows me to get optimal wall spacing, i know from my ideal listening room tests that i won't even need a sub. i'd rather put the money into a second sub for the living room system for stereo low end. this is is my work desk system.

Curious, what do you mean by "not driving the genelecs to spec"? Balanced vs non balanced makes 0 audible difference if there is no ground loop.
 
i'd only be driving them at 2v peak voltage swing. my dealer has been in contact with genelec about all kinds of stuff i've brought up and they're quite insistent that their stated FR goes out the window if you start screwing around with input signal from published standards
 
i'd only be driving them at 2v peak voltage swing. my dealer has been in contact with genelec about all kinds of stuff i've brought up and they're quite insistent that their stated FR goes out the window if you start screwing around with input signal from published standards

It sounds like something is getting very confused in a game of telephone. As far as I know, Genelecs don't really care about input voltage at all. The only limitation is whether you can put out enough voltage to reach their maximum output. The maximum sensitivity of most(all?) Genelec speakers is -6dBu, which you reach by setting the dial to that setting. It means 100dB @ 1m at that input level. There is a post here where Ilkka calculates the voltage needed in that scenario. Adapting it for the 8040B, which has maximum output of 105dB, at maximum sensitivity you would only need -1dBu or 0.69V RMS which should be no problem for any unbalanced consumer DAC or even AVR.

The only downside I can think of is worse SNR, if you have a higher input level you could turn the sensitivity of the Genelecs down which would reduce residual noise. But this is minor and certainly not something that would affect frequency response.

P.S. I strongly suggest talking to Genelec support directly([email protected]) and not going through dealers heh.
 
hmm, interesting. thanks for the info! good to know if i add a sub in the future!
 
I REALLY want to know how this compares to the Bowers Wilkins DB3D ...very similar specs, no XLR though :-(
 
This looks a bit like my B&W PV1d. I am very happy about the sound quality of that one, but adding two of these would certainly improve in room response, and give more headroom. I am waiting for proper tests and curious about the extension - I measured my PV1d down to 13 Hz flat.
 
I figure that will outperform the PV1D... but the DB3D? Been taunting myself with the Bowers as it mates seamlessly with my 805D3 Speakers; but it’s just too £xpensive for what it is, really at £2000 for a square box and HYPEX UcD ;-)
 
As I said, my PV1d reaches down really low. The SVS 3000 micro possibly less so. Whether that matters much is a different story. I had to filter out the lowest frequencies because I was getting too much microphone noise etc from radio broadcasts. What still puzzles me a bit about the 3000 micro is that I see no information on filter slope, and no high level connection. The latter could be an issue for people with integrated stereo amplifiers.
The best part of the stoy is obviously the combination of quite modest price and small size, plus some basic dsp filtering. For many people this is an ideal option to have a system with multiple (four?) subs, and all the more so since there is also the wireless option to reach the parts of the room that cables do not reach.
If this sub turns out to be a commercial success it may encourage SVS to follow up with a larger model with 2x10 inch drivers in a slightly larger box.
 
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Lol funny you say that but I messaged their Support last week asking about a 10” model which should plumb 20hz

...maybe if enough of us ask, may not fall on deaf ears!
 
My measurements showed flat response down to 20hz with a bit of rew eq with line level input. I was able to blend it with with the 8030cs I demoed it with flat fr from 20-200hz. It was flat enough that I had to add room response at 25hz because it was shaking my desk
 
i know this is monumentally stupid, but i'm kind of regretting sending this back. when it hits, it hits. and it's tiny and light. and that's with the upgrade to the 8040b!!! that hit 45hz -3db falloff with terrible port placement. my floorstanders only hit 40hz falloff! (but they have a hefty sub..)
 
I see SVS is also releasing a wireless audio adapter! Now things are getting really interesting.. in combination with the Micro 3000, it will turn it into a true wireless subwoofer. Nice!

What do you think? Is that something to look out for or is wireless audio per definition a nogo?
 
I see SVS is also releasing a wireless audio adapter! Now things are getting really interesting.. in combination with the Micro 3000, it will turn it into a true wireless subwoofer. Nice!

What do you think? Is that something to look out for or is wireless audio per definition a nogo?

I think they vary - Amir reviewed two I think - one from Rel, and other may have been SVS can't remember
 
I see SVS is also releasing a wireless audio adapter! Now things are getting really interesting.. in combination with the Micro 3000, it will turn it into a true wireless subwoofer. Nice!

What do you think? Is that something to look out for or is wireless audio per definition a nogo?
The Micro 3000 is on my watch list. I am however leery of wireless transmitier, they usually introduce considerable delay that often translates in subwoofer seen to be @ 25 feet from the listening position by the AVR..... in a 10 x 15 (WxL)room...
 
However the idea is interesting if you use multiple subs. The more of them the bigger the chance at least one of them needs a wireless connection.
 
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