Stereophile's snide editorial on ASR and Amir

[aliqaz]

Thoughts after Munich

I'm writing this column on the long flight back to New York City following High End Munich, the big hi-fi show that in regular times takes place each May. Because these are not regular times, this was the first Munich show since 2019. This show was smaller than other recent Munich shows: COVID...

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I am pretty sure this is a direct comment on the ASR community.

 

[Ron Texas]

Screw Stereophile and the horse they rode in on.

 

[abdo123]

I'm not sure if Purifi would be happy to see their material used for slander. I would not at least.

 

[aliqaz]

Direct quotes from the article:

"Purifi's people are serious engineers, but don't make the mistake of thinking they mindlessly ally themselves with the simple-minded objectivists who populate certain online discussion forums."

"owning an Audio Precision analyzer doesn't make you an expert, and the unguided application of analytical tools can lead you far astray."

 

[pablolie]

You mean this part?

".. Purifi's people are serious engineers, but don't make the mistake of thinking they mindlessly ally themselves with the simple-minded objectivists who populate certain online discussion forums. They understand that science and engineering must be carefully deployed. Members of the Purifi team seemed to me as impatient with measurements-happy reductionists as with the radical antimeasurements crowd .."

To me it means the writer is projecting and thinking he knows what Purifi engineers think. ".. they seemed .." doesn't sound too self-assured, nor does it seem the entire paragraph nails down what the correct position should be - the writer positions himself well out of the supposedly warring factions.

 

[dfuller]

"owning an Audio Precision analyzer doesn't make you an expert, and the unguided application of analytical tools can lead you far astray."

This is true, see: people like GoldenSound

 

[DMill]

Thoughts after Munich

I'm writing this column on the long flight back to New York City following High End Munich, the big hi-fi show that in regular times takes place each May. Because these are not regular times, this was the first Munich show since 2019. This show was smaller than other recent Munich shows: COVID...

www.stereophile.com

I am pretty sure this is a direct comment on the ASR community.

How so?
EDIT: I stand corrected. I did not read into the post perhaps as much as should have.

 

[Somafunk]

Recently there seems to be a coordinated and prepared attack on objectivity and measurement of equipment by the more subjective hive mind reviewer whether they be print, online, video, the wording/particular phrases used appear to read almost identically so I guess the jungle drums are rumbling and they feel threatened for whatever reason.

 

[sarumbear]

"owning an Audio Precision analyzer doesn't make you an expert, and the unguided application of analytical tools can lead you far astray."

As if they do not know @amirm's background. They cover all those expensive products but they are OK with a cheap, uninformed snipe.

 

[Katji]

Screw Stereophile and the horse they rode in on.

Corey Greenberg took the horse.

 

[sarumbear]

Recently there seems to be a coordinated and prepared attack on objectivity and measurement of equipment by the more subjective hive mind reviewer whether they be print, online, video, the wording/particular phrases used appear to read almost identically so I guess the jungle drums are rumbling and they fell threatened for whatever reason.

I blame the US Supreme Court

 

[diddley]

Thankfully Amir knows what he does, and by doing so educating a whole bunch of people.Something that Stereophile can't do.

 

[Ken1951]

A truly pathetic swipe. Stereophile should be ashamed. But I don't think I'll hold my breath waiting for that. This sort of nonsense and attitudes are why I dropped my subscription ages ago. A pox on their house.

 

[Katji]

Story is mostly blehh. ...Probably a credible snipe, but blehh.

 

[RichB]

This quote summarizes the article very well,

Knowing what to measure is critical, and getting to that point is hard work. As is written in a Purifi blog post—it's unsigned, but the voice and some biographical details sound like Putzeys's—"We don't so much hear distortion levels as distortion mechanisms. You need to understand the mechanism before you can design a test that will quantify it sensibly."

Ah distortion mechanisms, here here, by all means distortion mechanisms.

- Rich

 

[muslhead]

How is that any more pathetic than what ASR members do to Stereophile in our posts.
Why is it ok for ASR but not Stereophile?
Inquiring minds want to know

 

[Soundstage]

Not their first attempt. The reality is that their business model is under attack with each review Amir does. People reading the reviews do realize, review after review, that the 99% of what makes a Stereophile review is useless.

Some people say that John Atkinson is an authority. The authority in this context is defined as the power to influence others, especially because of one's commanding manner or one's recognized knowledge about something.
Amir is clearly an authority. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of John Atkinson who has traded the science for marketing.

 

[Vacceo]

It must hurt that ASR has more readers than Stereophile.

Now, get back to your Diana Krall on vynil and stop crying.

 

[dc655321]

Some people say that John Atkinson is an authority. The authority in this context is defined as the power to influence others, especially because of one's commanding manner or one's recognized knowledge about something.
Amir is clearly an authority. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of John Atkinson who has traded the science for marketing.

Not entirely disagreeing, but Atkinson was not the author here. It was the other JA.

 

[Vacceo]

Recently there seems to be a coordinated and prepared attack on objectivity and measurement of equipment by the more subjective hive mind reviewer whether they be print, online, video, the wording/particular phrases used appear to read almost identically so I guess the jungle drums are rumbling and they fell threatened for whatever reason.

Berlin's bunker: they are loosing and they know it.