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Thanks for this. Always good to know that about expensive products.They have reliability issues and horrible support.
Thanks for this. Always good to know that about expensive products.They have reliability issues and horrible support.
To some people but, to others, its the real estate they occupy. My wife has often said that she doesn't like stand-mounted speakers because boxes on stilts are ungraceful and the space under the box is wasted. Her's is a purely esthetic analysis but it fits with my preference to take advantage of that space to improve bass.It's not the footprint, it's the total volume of the combo even if they take up the same amount of floor space. It's just a visual thing.
To some people but, to others, its the real estate they occupy. My wife has often said that she doesn't like stand-mounted speakers because boxes on stilts are ungraceful and the space under the box is wasted. Her's is a purely esthetic analysis but it fits with my preference to take advantage of that space to improve bass.
You only say this because you own them.I am not sure about current US pricing, but I still think that Quad electrostats are as good as it gets for many types of music (I own a pair of 2805s). They are superbly neutral and free of distortion, with a spectacularly natural spatial representation. They have two weaknesses, and the smaller models in particular: limited low frequency extension (though much better than in the past) and limited dynamic headroom (again better than in the past). Both can be cured to some extent by using subwoofers. People always say that they are very hard to integrate, but that is only because as dipoles they suffer far less from room modes than ordinary subwoofers. Use multiple subs and dsp room eq and they will integrate very well (I know, I did it). The larger 2912 model goes lower and louder. Also, there seems to be a new XL model. For me, the 2805 (now 2812) was as large as I found domestically acceptable (each to his/her taste) so I went the subwoofer route.
For those who are into more dynamic music, I think the larger Harbeth models may well be the best that their money can buy.
I have heard the ATCs at shows and like the active ones. I discussed that with them as they had two suites next to each other once: one with active and another with passive. They agree their active is definitely superior.Does anyone have any thoughts on Magico, ATC, or PMC? They are all brands that I've heard a handful of times, but I don't have an informed perspective on any of them.
I believe in the UK at least the stores have to buy them up front and they've not sold well so no one's bothering to do that again.Word on the street is that many B&O stores are desperate to unload Beolab 90s and will do so at cost, which is a little less than half of the US$80K MSRP. The usual B&O market has not sprung for them. I visited a B&O store in China last year, and the salesperson told me they'd already sold through their Beolab 90s.
B&O's commercial disaster may result in the serious audio enthusiast's bargain, as long as the 90s remain available.
I've not heard the professional PMCs, but the 20 range and the fact range I've spent time with, had the fact 8 and 12 at home, the 12s were a disaster in my lounge, something horrible in the bass, before I measured things so I don't know what was going on. The 8s are lean and bright, they sound great with some music.Does anyone have any thoughts on Magico, ATC, or PMC? They are all brands that I've heard a handful of times, but I don't have an informed perspective on any of them.
Yes, I heard an amazing demo of them at a show. See: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...o-fest-rmaf-2017-day-3-sunday.1985/post-52675Here's another name that I hadn't thought about in a number of years until I saw giant, probably insanely expensive ones in Seoul last autumn: Avalon. Anyone have experience with them?
Since electrostatics are in play, anyone got something to say about Martin Logan?
Like the low distortion you get with them. That would be the bad you don't hear.I've had mine for 21 years now. $4500 list with "buy one get one half-price" speaker promotion at Sound Advice.
I guess you like them, or you don't.
The good that I hear outweighs the bad that I don't.
Not my experience. My Vivd B1s were serviced by Laurence Dickie, the designer, himself, and he came to my flat to fine tune. OK, it helps I’m in the U.K., like him.They have reliability issues and horrible support.