Blade Runner 2049 is a fav of mine here at home.
The BluRay Atmos audio track makes for a fun immersive viewing experience.
The BluRay Atmos audio track makes for a fun immersive viewing experience.
I'm looking for technical details. I wanted to know which screens are to Iexact MAX spec, which ones are still able to show actual IMAX film, and many more.
Mostly I want to know when or if more 70MM films will be played, like just normal 70MM IMAX films.
I have never been the ontario musuem to see the super wide pano imax screen, but I don't think it's possible for them to show regular movies there.
With regards to resolution: don't forget most movies used to have their CGI done at 2K. But I'm not sure if that is still the case.
I stopped going to theaters when the annoyance of people talking was overtaken by the double annoyance of people texting while they were talking.
My wife and I have been enjoying re-releases from the Criterion Collection on our HDTV with Vanatoo speakers. Most are beautifully restored, and there's some gems that we hadn't seen before.
Perhaps you'd like to offer some examples that you consider to be particularly good?
I haven't seen a 3D movie in a theater before....just some in my olde LG hdtv unit at home. So, is it worth it to see a 3D movie in a theater?
Well I think it’s akin to a loudness war with some blockbusters that are basically a 2 hour subwoofer massage
That said we have reference level for a good reason so it should be used otherwise the sound would not be rigth in the subtler moments and it is done rigth in many movies so it’s not all lost it’s frankly much better than most music recordings.
Wow. First of all, thank you so much for the most informative post about IMAX I've ever seen. Wish I could throw 1,000 "likes" at you. Please, take my thanks and a virtual high five.The LF Examiner page to which Blumlein88 linked is probably the best bet, although I wouldn't necessarily count on it being absolutely up-to-date. The "Fmt" column tells you what kind of projection system(s) is (are) installed--15/70 IMAX, D (Xenon) or DL (Laser.)
There is a list on Wikipedia, too, although it varies in accuracy and the level of information. In particular, I'd caution against taking any screen sizes listed as accurate. But, as I mentioned, it's the geometry that makes it an IMAX, e.g. last row no more than 1x screen width from the screen, rather than getting bogged down in whether it's 85ft. wide or 90ft. wide etc.
Having said that, the Giant Screen Association has published its own specifications, in which 70ft. wide is the minimum "giant" screen width.
15/70 IMAX as a distribution format is deprecated. The projectors are no longer manufactured, and remanufacture of key replacement parts is not possible, requiring the cannibalisation of existent (but disused) projectors.
A brief overview of the main projector types:
Note also that you'll need to visit an IMAX with Laser venue for IMAX's 12 channel sound format (adds 4xoverheads, 2xsides.)
- IMAX GT (Grand Theatre) - Xenon light source 15/70 projection used in the "classic"--typically "institutional" (museum etc.)--venues that were purpose-built to IMAX spec. with 1.43:1 screens.
- (IMAX SR, MPX - Smaller scale 15/70 projectors used in e.g. early multiplex installs. I don't think any of them are in use today.)
- IMAX Digital - Xenon light source DLP dual projection. 1.9:1 maximum ratio; 1.43:1 not supported. At least the original version of this was 2x2K, although IMAX has their own proprietary system which allowed for pixel-level alignment, including auto recalibration with slightly "warped" image data being fed to one projector to achieve this. The pixel-level alignment is slightly offset, so the "fill" is better, i.e. a reduction of gaps between pixels on the DLP "grid," and that's the key to achieving smooth "cinematic" images. The "image enhancer" in the projection system "watches" the screen (via cameras) for this. At best, very good. Earlier installs in less ambitiously scaled multiplex conversions... eh. OK.
- IMAX with Laser GT - Laser light source DLP dual projection. 2x4K. It's not possible to align to pixel-level at 4K, so instead the system feeds one projector a lower resolution image than the other, IIRC using wavelet-based processing. Again, proprietary to IMAX (and patented.) Using vertical anamorphic lenses, it's able to fill a 1.43:1 screen. This is the replacement system for IMAX GT 15/70 projection, and many venues have done just that, removing the old 15/70 projection.
- IMAX with Laser "COLA" (Commercial Laser) - Laser light source DLP single projection. 1x4K. Intended for "multiplex" type locations. 1.9:1 maximum ratio; 1.43:1 not supported. The single projection system supports 3D by, IIRC, using a splitter (rather than alternating frames for left/right eye) and so that means the resolution is cut in half. I think it's intended for use on screens up to maybe 80ft. wide. The installs to date in the UK have all been in purpose-built multiplex auditoria with 70ft. or so wide screens.
There have been endless discussions about "resolution"--the GSA spec. linked to above suggests 8K minimum is needed to satisfy human visual acuity at the front row (0.35x screen width away from the screen in a conformant IMAX or GSA-spec. auditorium.)
Suffice it to say, "resolution" with film is difficult because it doesn't have an absolute hard cut-off as digital does--instead one has to look at "modulation transfer function" plots. Moreover, though, the "real-world" resolution of IMAX, by the time the image gets to release prints, through the projector's lens and on the screen, is nothing like the "theoretical" figures that you'll see for the raw film stock. (Plus, as mentioned, visual acuity, so it becomes akin to "can artifacts be heard at -200dBr?")
(There are other factors in perceived resolution, particularly contrast rather than "pixels" per se. And, with its deep blacks, that's an advantage that laser light source projection has.)
Besides this, most films go through digital intermediates, not to mention are chock full of digital composites and CGI, so any "theoretical" resolution provided by 15/70 is, well, just that. IMO either of the laser systems are fantastic, even for 3D with the single projector "COLA" system, and 15/70 is overrated.
As for the other aspects of whether an auditorium is "IMAX-spec." in other respects, particularly the auditorium's geometry/layout, please see my previous posts. If you want to be absolutely sure, then a purpose-built venue, whether the "institutional" or "multiplex" type, is the best bet. But in the two "iconic" historic venues I mentioned that have had IMAX conversions, both of which are equipped with the IMAX with Laser GT system, a good seat would be fine.
All IMAX screens are "slightly curved" (as IMAX say.)
Most venues that had 15/70 projection will, if not upgraded to IMAX with Laser, will have IMAX Digital (Xenon) projection capability alongside it, and quite possibly non-IMAX (DCI-spec.) projection too. If nothing else, 15/70 projection alone is mostly pretty useless when hiring out the venue for corporate events and the like!
As to whether full length "Hollywood" feature films are shown, that's a matter of local programming policy and whether distributors are willing to book releases there. Sometimes they programme mixed content with some division between documentaries and feature films, or if there is a particularly high demand release, or they have 15/70 projection and there is a film that has been released in that format, then for a period the screen will be programmed for that. Interstellar is a good example where this has happened, for instance, at London's Science Museum. (Albeit I hear that's about to upgrade to IMAX with Laser.)
Finally, even though 1.43:1 was supposed to be deprecated, some films do make use of the "full height" format and so in these cases it may be worth seeking out a venue that supports that aspect ratio.
Shame on them. What theater was it?Probably the worst recent experience I had was when the theater had powered amps or speakers behind the screen shining bright blue LEDs scattered everywhere on dark scenes. It was terrible. So glad I bought a projector and started my screen and speaker builds!
One of the Marcus theaters in Delafield, WI. Not their premiere venue but nonetheless inexcusable.Shame on them. What theater was it?
Wow. First of all, thank you so much for the most informative post about IMAX I've ever seen. Wish I could throw 1,000 "likes" at you. Please, take my thanks and a virtual high five.
I've a question about the screen at the ontario science center. Do you know how curved it is, and how it effects the picture? I've not been there but the pictures I've seen indicate it's extremely curved, to the point it might detract from the visual experience. However I'm going to the theater in the next month anyway. For the following reason:
They're playing Interstellar, The Dark Knight, Inception and Dunkirk in 70MM again next month! UN-freaking-believable. I had the very blessed opportunity to see The Dark Knight, and Interstellar in 70MM over at the Colosieum theater, back when they had the 70MM projector installed, and were still capable of showing true IMAX film. I know they switched over to Laser only in 2017. But I did see those two there. And it was, still is, some of, if not the best entertainment I've experienced in my life. Better than most of the broadway shows I've seen, or the couple of Cirque de Solois, or live concert performances I've also had the privileged to see.
And one last question, about Inception. I've never seen it in 70MM, and was wondering what, if any, scenes in that movie are shot in 70MM? I have the 4K bluray of it and if I recall none of the scenes on that particular transfer have the full(er) frame format of the Interstellar and The Dark Knight 4K UHD releases, which blow up the image to fill 16:9 televisions. I have to say, Interstellar in 4K UHD, on my 55" OLED, playing back on my JBL 4367, from 7 feet away comes to like 60% there from the full on real deal IMAX experience. Still quite a ways off, but when you're dealing with such a phenomenal experience, 60% is actually enough...
Hrm... well I've gushed on and on about IMAX and for those of you who are still reading, I implore you to listen to me. You absolutely must, must, MUST go purchase a ticket for Interstellar next month. I promise you, it's worth a several hour drive from the states to go see it. Those of you within a few hours of Toronto, BUY TICKETS NOW! You WON'T regret it.
Wow. First of all, thank you so much for the most informative post about IMAX I've ever seen. Wish I could throw 1,000 "likes" at you. Please, take my thanks and a virtual high five.
I've a question about the screen at the ontario science center. Do you know how curved it is, and how it effects the picture? I've not been there but the pictures I've seen indicate it's extremely curved, to the point it might detract from the visual experience.
However I'm going to the theater in the next month anyway. For the following reason:
They're playing Interstellar, The Dark Knight, Inception and Dunkirk in 70MM again next month! UN-freaking-believable.
Probably the worst recent experience I had was when the theater had powered amps or speakers behind the screen shining bright blue LEDs scattered everywhere on dark scenes. It was terrible.
My wife and I have been enjoying re-releases from the Criterion Collection on our HDTV with Vanatoo speakers. Most are beautifully restored, and there's some gems that we hadn't seen before.