Just join Head-Fi.I, for one, look forward to founding "audiosubjectivereview" and banning all data.
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Surprised it took 2 pages for someone to comment on that, lol.Just join Head-Fi.
With the SU-8 v2 available sometimes at $200 and the M500 sometimes at $350, I too had hoped for a $300-ish release price on the SU-9 that might dip down to $250-ish territory during the upcoming fall sales. I don’t ever use the headphone amp on my M500 and was hoping for a less-expensive option of basically the same DAC for another system in my house. Looks like best I can hope for with the SU-9 on sale might be around $400 which is more than I paid for the M500 a year ago. Oh well, at the rate new DACs are coming out, shouldn’t be too long before there are other options to consider.If this came in at $300, it would be a killer deal; a balanced DAC with zero compromises. At $440 the value is meh.
it does not feel nice to be an unaware beta testerWell, at least they provide a solution. It's the downside of releasing some new products a year, that's how it goes in consumer industry. But they perfect their craft along the way and that is better for us. We get more for less. Chord have their Qutest and Dave for years but who can reach for that..
ESS chips have stronger dejitter, AKM works differently. Different approach.
I need dacs could be fed by coax/toslink.
so, smsl m500 vs smsl su-9 which one would be better choice?
I've heard from here ASR,
smsl m500 was revised or firmware updated for fixing thermal degradation and improve performance.
I have not checked but I am confident both outputs are on all the time. A switch in the path will cost some performance and there is no precedent for such a switch.@amirm If you still have this hooked up anywhere any chance you could find out in the menu's if all outputs(XLR/RCA) are always on or if you can switch between them? Otherwise ill dive into the manual when this gets released.
Isn’t there already plenty of other sub 300$ options to consider? There is definitely no shortage of good performing ampless dac revied on ASR, what do you dislike of stuff like the e30, the schiit modius if you need, balanced, and many more choices.With the SU-8 v2 available sometimes at $200 and the M500 sometimes at $350, I too had hoped for a $300-ish release price on the SU-9 that might dip down to $250-ish territory during the upcoming fall sales. I don’t ever use the headphone amp on my M500 and was hoping for a less-expensive option of basically the same DAC for another system in my house. Looks like best I can hope for with the SU-9 on sale might be around $400 which is more than I paid for the M500 a year ago. Oh well, at the rate new DACs are coming out, shouldn’t be too long before there are other options to consider.
Where to look that up?Be sure your amplifier has an input impedance above 3.7k Ohm (10 to 1 ratio
For which modern amp will be not enough 2vrms ?A lower priced high SINAD DAC like the Topping E30 only outputs 2vrms through RCA. That is still perfectly acceptable for most 29dB gain amps under 200wpc, but not as emotionally satisfying as 5.3vrms from XLRs where you know you have the headroom and can hook up almost any amp in the world, no matter how powerful and take said amp to the limit.
We have made a ton of pear butter which I eat as breakfast in the morning. Will make some apple ones next although we still have some left from last two years of canning!@amirm
Better make some marmalade out of the fruits, than dehydrating
I don't have an explanation for that but the difference is not major anyway.I don't understand the output thingy:
Measurement for xlr says 370 ohms.
Smsl's paper says 207 ohms?
Because it's a new product that comes after M500 and M500V2(almost as good again), and without the headphone amplifier. In itself of course it's a good price for a well designed 9038pro device. And I don't see people actually "complaining" about it. It's still very good just less competitive than their older product.Is it accurate to say that the SU-9 priced at $439.99 appears comparable to the performance of the Topping D90 priced at $799.99? If so, I don't understand the complaints based on the price of the SU-9. If there are some significant factors I am not considering, please clarify what that is.
Why? There are already a zillion sites and magazines for that.I, for one, look forward to founding "audiosubjectivereview" and banning all data.
For which modern amp will be not enough 2vrms ?
Because there are already multiple products with the same performance that have been out for almost a year now for the same price soncoz sgd1 smsl m500 v2. The d90 and m400 cost a lot more because they use the ak4499 instead of the es9038pro. Also the su8 was known for being a very cheap balanced dac so people assumed the successor would also be a more budget product.Is it accurate to say that the SU-9 priced at $439.99 appears comparable to the performance of the Topping D90 priced at $799.99? If so, I don't understand the complaints based on the price of the SU-9. If there are some significant factors I am not considering, please clarify what that is.
They should pay me to use it. How much $50, or $80, or perhaps a special offer of $99.50 shipped to my house. I'm holding out for that.Personally, I have trouble seeing the value for $440.. Maybe two years ago..ok. But today I think a good case can be made 'DAC solved' for $200 and under..
Now if it had included an L30 equivalent HP amp, and a 10-band PEQ...maybe..
Even so, Qudelix 5k ($110) + L30 ($140) = $250 = lesser SINAD DAC (likely) but PEQ room, speaker, HP optimisation ability. Plus HP amp.