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SMSL SU-9 Balanced DAC Review

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Because there are already multiple products with the same performance that have been out for almost a year now for the same price soncoz sgd1 smsl m500 v2. The d90 and m400 cost a lot more because they use the ak4499 instead of the es9038pro. Also the su8 was known for being a very cheap balanced dac so people assumed the successor would also be a more budget product.
Hmm, from what I saw from googling the price difference of those two chips it is only about $20-$25 bucks, so that does not seem to add up (no pun intended).
 

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If you are hearing issues I suggest you either have your hearing examined, or learn to do a proper controlled test. Either way, what you hear is what is on your recording. Guaranteed!
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It seems like a weird thing to say. Someone might have a unit that has some issue. Or maybe their setup causes some issue that you did not experience when measuring this. It makes me uneasy when I read this. It seems like a very aggressive thing to say, and not entirely logical.
 

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Hmm, from what I saw from googling the price difference of those two chips it is only about $20-$25 bucks, so that does not seem to add up (no pun intended).
But at the date of initial release? Or even before the release?
 

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In the context, I read it as Amir's confidence in this product, as per his tests.
I guess he is referring to reviewers who judge a dac by the sound they hear, and don't measure it for performance, using specific criteria.
Agreed. He is referring of course to a properly functioning unit.
 
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Wow, love this site. Thanks @amirm . Been eyeing the M500v2, then read articles here and elsewhere on MQA and started second guessing that decision. Then looked at SU 8 et etc. but now, why?! I guess I'll give it a few weeks and see what pops up with the 9.
 
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I don't have an explanation for that but the difference is not major anyway.
So, uhmm, 80 % not much a difference? Well okay, you say so.

But I still don't see where I can look up the xlr input impedance of the headphone amplifier for the topping a90.
Neither you, Wolf of @JohnYang1997 provide it. ;)
You only provide the output impedance.
 

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So, uhmm, 80 % not much a difference? Well okay, you say so.

But I still don't see where I can look up the xlr input impedance of the headphone amplifier for the topping a90.
Neither you, Wolf of @JohnYang1997 provide it. ;)
You only provide the output impedance.
You must have not followed. 2kOhm for balance input. 10k for unbalanced.
 

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Loved it. Worthy upgrade over the FiiO K5 Pro?

Thx @amirm
 
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So far I'm rather impressed with this unit, I typically go with a fast filter but I find things are overall a bit more natural to my ears with the slow linear... tho fast hybrid has a touch more "depth" within the stage is renders...

The Brickwall and Fast Linear filters were fatiguing...


Ahh the system in question, I'm running Coaxial in from a D10 XLR out [Vol at 99 with "fixed" output] into a CCS Modded SRM-007tA from Mjolnir Audio with a ES Lab ES-1A [Dark Pads]
 
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SMSL was working on a DAC with vintage PCM1704 multibit chips, anyone knows where it went?
 

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While a PCM1704 DAC would not break a new ground, if they can make one reasonably priced that performs up to the chip spec, supports NOS mode and 16x sampling over USB, it would be an interesting option to use with HQ Player or other external filtering, just for fun.
 

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While a PCM1704 DAC would not break a new ground, if they can make one reasonably priced that performs up to the chip spec, supports NOS mode and 16x sampling over USB, it would be an interesting option to use with HQ Player or other external filtering, just for fun.
I fear it will only support digital filter mode and no bypass/NOS.
 
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