That may be, but among the die-hard "measurements mean nothing to my ears" crowd, even a million tests wouldn't shake them one single bit.Thanks to this site, it's reputation just took a big hit.
That may be, but among the die-hard "measurements mean nothing to my ears" crowd, even a million tests wouldn't shake them one single bit.Thanks to this site, it's reputation just took a big hit.
That being said, does it have any safety certifications? Being a German brand, I expected a TÜV mark, but there's nothing of the sort on the back panel.
Oh good, at least I don't have to worry about the amp frying my head while enjoying 88dB of SINAD.Someone asked for safety/regulatory certification. There is a big label on the bottom with every kind of certification you want.
Thanks.I guess I should have explained it was a technical decision that is of no real consequence of the sound for the HD600/HD650/HD800/HD800S and HD820 which is what it is designed for.
Also I sometimes get feedback users of the same headphones often prefer them on the 33Ω setting (instead of 0.2Ω or 120Ω) on certain configurable amps.
The higher resistance for these headphones isn't an issue.
Oh and anyone defending this, I just want to hear the justification for that ATROCIOUS output impedance
You should see the Beyerdynamic A20 amp... it has 100 Ohm output resistance.
Edit: Nango beat me to it.
The justification is that they took the easy design route, grabbed the TPA6120A (Topping uses it as well) and designed it to comply to spec sheets which recommends 40 Ohm (single ended) and specify a minimum of 10 Ohm output R which it has directly on the output of the amp to ensure stability.
The higher output R is of no consequence for the intended headphone range.
I don't think it is worth more than 400 Euros. They are selling dreams just like most other high priced brands and have imaginative writers that make up the nice stories around it.
HD800, HD650 and HD600 are unequivocally regarded as some of the best, you might not agree though
Are you talking about the Blue Hawaii Special Edition? I own a Stax L700 + SR353x, which is my best sounding combo in house at this moment, but I like the Stax so much that I want to upgrade to 009s with a BHSE. I had only limited experience with 009s and never experienced the BHSE in real. Do you still recommend me to give it a try?
Amongst other things yeah, I always see BHSE at the top to recommended list. But I don't see any measurements around. Try the 009s by any means.Are you talking about the Blue Hawaii Special Edition? I own a Stax L700 + SR353x, which is my best sounding combo in house at this moment, but I like the Stax so much that I want to upgrade to 009s with a BHSE. I had only limited experience with 009s and never experienced the BHSE in real. Do you still recommend me to give it a try?
Your assertions are interesting but at some point these tests become invaluable in the terms of finding the gems and in the terms of pointing out undesirable engineering. If you decided the source for your audio would you not use these tests? Anybody using decent hi-fi transducers would want a good source and get proper value for their money rather than support something that is obvious to tests as not desirable.These measurements don't surprise me, I have a topping DX3 pro and we all know how good that is for the cost but with the HD660S I prefer them straight from my midrange Samsung smartphone. I can imagine the measurements being quite poor but for whatever reason I prefer the sound out of the phone, it sounds a bit richer and better depth. I think this just proves to me that measurements don't really matter as long as the device can drive your headphones adequately. I mean look how much distortion you get from vinyl records and tube amplifiers but they sound great. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that pretty much any DAC/amp should sound fine but the problem here is the amount that is being asked for this HDV820.
I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to audio but if I had to take a guess I'd say we're not as sensitive to all these distortions and imperfections as some might make us believe. Our brains are probably good at filtering out all the distortion and nasties.
Your samsung phone may have high output impedance and hence changes the response in a way you like. Then again I have an Samsung S8+ and no way does it sound as good DX3 Pro. It has anemic sound without good bass and dynamics with HD-650.These measurements don't surprise me, I have a topping DX3 pro and we all know how good that is for the cost but with the HD660S I prefer them straight from my midrange Samsung smartphone. I can imagine the measurements being quite poor but for whatever reason I prefer the sound out of the phone, it sounds a bit richer and better depth.