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Purifi Amps - Top Choice or No?
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Not quite.Buckeye Amps
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That system was very complex, kludged and needed expertise of a member to maintain who is not active here. It also cost per month fees. We have migrated to a new system that I can maintain and cost us nothing per month. Alas, we are stuck at version 1.0 there so nice features like what you see there is not yet implemented.
You want a fancier case and such?
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I see it's already been abandoned. I sure understand the monthly pricing being an issue. Sadly I don't know any freeware for the task either.
As a data visualization geek I couldn't help but get excited about the possibilities with such a great database as ASR, that's all.
Thanks for the clarification.
As an option, sure. Some people, myself included, like to spend some more and have a fancier chassis around state of the art electronics. As long as it does not remove the option of those who care not for chassis and just want a simple understated one, having both options everyone is happy.
It would be another arrow in the quiver for sure.
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Are the heatsinks/cooling pretty much the same as competitors? Would a beefier aluminum block chassis help with heat? I do know the March Purify stuff runs cool.
Personally, I'd be good with saving like $500+ dollars if sound quality, features (triggers, etc), component and power supply quality were all about the same but the chassis wasn't as thick, as long as it's not paper thin and easily dinged, and can effectively shield unwanted signals or what not.
I can help if needed, at least for boXem.
- internal cables sleeving improve reliability but takes time
- using reliable electromechanical components costs a fortune
- custom packaging protects better during shipping, costs a lot for small batches
- not relying on ASR members and Amir to design or measure has a cost
- testing products at end of line has a cost
- and, last but not least, selling products that went through an actual certification process (safety, EMI) has a huge cost.
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And there you have your answer 
All you will gain here as an answer are individual personal opinions, sometimes coloured by individual interests (OEM manufacturers, equipment sellers).
Any technical engineering design is a balance of compromises, and nothing is ideal. Ideal solution does not exist, we may only approach it emphasizing some features and overlooking other ones.
As a proof that nothing is an ideal solution:
NC252MP (class D) vs. A250W4R (classAB) burst measurements into 4ohm//2.2uF load
NC252MP (class D) vs. A250W4R (classAB) burst measurements into 4ohm//2.2uF load As I have been doing, quite intensively, wide range of power amplifier measurements, I have decided to compare 2 different power amplifier design philosophies, class AB and class D. The amplifiers chosen have equal...
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Correct but we need objective results that ASR try to reach it. Thanks to AsR we discovered the incrdible performances of the next generation Class D Amp like Purifi or Hypex. ...... for the rest yours is speculation. Have a nice day.All you will gain here as an answer are individual personal opinions, sometimes coloured by individual interests (OEM manufacturers, equipment sellers).
Any technical engineering design is a balance of compromises, and nothing is ideal. Ideal solution does not exist, we may only approach it emphasizing some features and overlooking other ones.
As a proof that nothing is an ideal solution:
NC252MP (class D) vs. A250W4R (classAB) burst measurements into 4ohm//2.2uF load
NC252MP (class D) vs. A250W4R (classAB) burst measurements into 4ohm//2.2uF load As I have been doing, quite intensively, wide range of power amplifier measurements, I have decided to compare 2 different power amplifier design philosophies, class AB and class D. The amplifiers chosen have equal...
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Why people need to comfort themselves all the time about their choices?
What are we,12yo?
The healthy way of thinking is questioning everything even (or specially) if it suits us.That's the way forward,that's the way progress is evolving.
In another thread about weight for example there are people who zero any case generalizing instead of reading their own amps specs.
As a example in my amps module (not Purifi) papers specifications are meet by the use of a 100mm heatshink.Would it make sense to see implementations like this?
I believe there are similar specified conditions in most of the class D PDFs.
And that's ony an example.
What are we,12yo?
The healthy way of thinking is questioning everything even (or specially) if it suits us.That's the way forward,that's the way progress is evolving.
In another thread about weight for example there are people who zero any case generalizing instead of reading their own amps specs.
As a example in my amps module (not Purifi) papers specifications are meet by the use of a 100mm heatshink.Would it make sense to see implementations like this?
I believe there are similar specified conditions in most of the class D PDFs.
And that's ony an example.
I assembled my Purifi together from the separate components. Initially I could not get it to work because of some issue with the Hypex SMPS. It took Rick Sykora to sort it out for me (Thanks, Rick). Because of that I can tell you that assemblers like Buckeye, Boxem, or March do indeed add value, safety and prevent headaches. My Purifi works fine now, and it's as good an amplifier as I've owned in my 47 years as an audiophile (including, amps from Conrad Johnson, Audio Research, Mark Levinson, and Brown Electronic Labs), but if I had it to do over I'd buy something from Buckeye or VTV if I were looking to make a value purchase or from Boxem or March if I wanted something that really looked every bit as fine as it performs. Thing about assembling a DIY amp with components from three different manufacturers is you have no one turn to when it doesn't work, so you better either have a good back up tech guy, or be that guy yourself. If not, no matter how straightforward it seems, you are far better off relying on someone else to put it together and provide a you with a warranty for its functionality.
Purifi has some of the best Class D tech but so does Hypex. Who will have the best two weeks or two months from now? Not as clear. Both are struggling with availability for their latest designs too. Anyway, neither sells finished amps and better quality, price and functionality are provided from a number of suppliers.
What your budget is, specific system needs are and where you are located will likely dictate the best answer for you. Comparing a Purifi based amp to a Hypex one should start with system qualification. Along with different price and functionality from OEMs, be sure you are comparing comparable tech. Sure an amp based on a Purifi EVAL1 module measures better than a Hypex NC252MP, but along with OEM value add, the cost structures are very different. So, the resulting prices are often quite different.
@ethanhallbeyer, what features (and when) do you want to buy and what is your budget?
What your budget is, specific system needs are and where you are located will likely dictate the best answer for you. Comparing a Purifi based amp to a Hypex one should start with system qualification. Along with different price and functionality from OEMs, be sure you are comparing comparable tech. Sure an amp based on a Purifi EVAL1 module measures better than a Hypex NC252MP, but along with OEM value add, the cost structures are very different. So, the resulting prices are often quite different.
@ethanhallbeyer, what features (and when) do you want to buy and what is your budget?
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I am looking between probably the latest higher power purifi and the latest hypex (the higher power version that is not yet out) monoblocks.
I would say $850-900 each is what I want to target.
I want a 12v trigger, balanced XLR, solid build quality and QA, upgraded power supply, solid thermals.
I don't need thicker aluminum block chassis at a premium.
Longer than 1 year warranty a plus.
I like the buckeye 2 channel purifi Monoblock version 2 so far. Seems to check off most boxes for me.
Probably the best is at least 3 years warranty. Let the manufacturer add the cost to it.
Of all of these, better packaging and certification costs are the ones that stand out here to me. However, admittedly, some are additive and certainly affect cost. Notably, better binding posts have gotten very pricey.
Buckeye (or anyone else) is not relying on Amir as far as I can see. I have been well compensated for my support to Buckeye, and so this may be a difference, it is definitely NOT a major cost advantage.
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I thought that it was Amir who highlighted the distortion caused by the crimps material because the amp was never properly measured before. I may have misunderstood, sorry for this.
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