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My ancient Celestion A1s are a "matched" pair. Consecutive serial numbers and handily marked L and R. I've just ordered some Revel M16s. One of them has arrived and I hope the other gets here tomorrow. They are individually boxed ( and sold individually in the US I believe). So my pair will be a random marriage based on how they are picked at the depot. Does this matter anymore?
 

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No. The matched pair thing was a little bit of a fad and marketing tool. Didn't really hurt anything.
 
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Thought so. ASR is such a font of cold reality. The left and right bit is quite weird though. How could it make a difference?
 

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Thought so. ASR is such a font of cold reality. The left and right bit is quite weird though. How could it make a difference?
Good question. It does help diffraction to off-center the drivers. The better way these days is to round over the cabinet edges. I guess once they determined to off-center things, the rest flowed naturally.
 

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For good imaging, it's helpful to have both speakers with near identical characteristics. I would expect a quality manufacturer to be pretty consistent between two speakers in the same production run. If there's a large age gap between the two, there may be some variance between them.
 

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I've been assuming the pair was offset tweeters right and left. That's how it went down over here.
 

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I've been assuming the pair was offset tweeters right and left. That's how it went down over here.

I wondered about that. It can certainly make a difference if the drivers are not vertically aligned. If that's the case, ideally they should be mirrored
 

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I wondered about that. It can certainly make a difference if the drivers are not vertically aligned. If that's the case, ideally they should be mirrored
You saw a lot of those in the 80s. JBL had some as I recall.
 

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My ancient Celestion A1s are a "matched" pair. Consecutive serial numbers and handily marked L and R. I've just ordered some Revel M16s. One of them has arrived and I hope the other gets here tomorrow. They are individually boxed ( and sold individually in the US I believe). So my pair will be a random marriage based on how they are picked at the depot. Does this matter anymore?
I don't know how old your current speakers are. Many older model speakers had different degree's of end of line testing. This whole MATCHED PAIR was somewhat of a marketing thing & somewhat real world. Most likely Celestion had a fixed end of line testing routine. They smartly decided they could use this test criteria & sell serial numbered & matched pairs. A good marketing ploy..........With most of today's GOOD major companies. I would consider Revel one such company. Well, such companies usually have rigid end of line test criteria. They have a reference standard which is picked from a defined production. The performance of this reference usually falls near the top of the group tested. Then they will put a small tolerance around this Ref. standard. This is the test criteria that will define pass & fail on ALL SPEAKERS!! Speakers that don't pass will simply be rejected & reworked or destroyed! I think both speakers will be very close.........YOUR SHOULD HAVE NO WORRIES!!
 

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Every RCI and drivers of your speaker has a tolerance value, the manufacturer can find the closet value for your driver(the most repaired parts) replacement. Manufacturer may reject your parts replacement if you don't send your serial no. It is not uncommon to do so in so highly priced manufacturer.
 

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No. The matched pair thing was a little bit of a fad and marketing tool. Didn't really hurt anything.
Well HFNRR used to test the FR of the two speakers they had for review, and it wasn't always good news.
Quad 12L Classic FR.jpg

Audel Art CG Tower FR.jpg


Matching was often good, but it would be a mistake to assume so.

cheers
 
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Well the Revel M16s have now replaced the ageing Celestions. The initial unmeasured feedback is excellent, despite being unmatched or L/R placement specific. What I have read here about them would suggest a pretty tight tolerance level as mentioned by Keith above. So I will sell the Celestions and maybe start saving for a sub. Many thanks for the input.
 

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