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Onkyo Tx-RZ70

That's a great deal for a good piece of tech.... but beware of it potentially being an Orphan - with news items out that Pioneer has withdraw its licence from Voxx/PAC... that means it may not get firmware updates and/or bug fixes.... (and in 2025 Dirac ART).

Right now there is a lot of uncertainty around Pioneer
 
Ibwondser how doffernt the rz70 is internally from the 805? The reviews have the rz70 being more dynamic and better sounding across the internet. It's a ral good price, though. I been contemplating them both all week.
 
Ibwondser how doffernt the rz70 is internally from the 805? The reviews have the rz70 being more dynamic and better sounding across the internet. It's a ral good price, though. I been contemplating them both all week.
Vendors are looking for differentiators to make a sale:

805 vs RZ70
XLR stereo pre-outs vs none
MCACC vs AccuEQ
Gold-plated RCA terminals vs none
4 SW outs (only 2 discrete as 2 are in parallel) vs 2 SW outs


Ignoring the above, the greatest factor might be Pioneer's future now that the license has been pulled from PAC!
 
Ordered my rz70 from France; Homecinesolutions. Huge discout on black friday sales; 1790e.
Receiver is in transit, should be here in Finland in a couble of days. Wery excited!
 
Ordered my rz70 from France; Homecinesolutions. Huge discout on black friday sales; 1790e.
Receiver is in transit, should be here in Finland in a couble of days. Wery excited!
Please let us know your experience when you recived it, with that site. I was also looking at the discount but have 0 experience of that site, but want to try it since they price is unmatchable in some products, some times. However not sure if they are good. Acording to some reviews they have no return policy (?).
 
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Hi there! Considering buying this AVR as for my home cinema. What speakers can I use without additional amps? Will it be enough for all 11 channels, like 100-150W each?
Can I use it with Aperion Audio Theatrus T65S Slim (4 Ohm, 20-250 W) speakers?

PS A manager at the AV-shop told me that they have the M2 version (MkII) with fixed HDMI or videochip, somelike this. I couldn't find any details out there. Is this true?
 
Hi there! Considering buying this AVR as for my home cinema. What speakers can I use without additional amps? Will it be enough for all 11 channels, like 100-150W each?
Can I use it with Aperion Audio Theatrus T65S Slim (4 Ohm, 20-250 W) speakers?

PS A manager at the AV-shop told me that they have the M2 version (MkII) with fixed HDMI or videochip, somelike this. I couldn't find any details out there. Is this true?
I may try the one I have this weekend. I got it for Xmas. It's huge. I am interested to see if it improves muti channel music sound in my room. Based on bench testing, I don't think you wild have any issue driving the harder speakers. The bench test from Gene at Audioholics showed it did a good job with power distribution and didn't seem to have the previous issue of nanny's on it.
 
Hi there! Considering buying this AVR as for my home cinema. What speakers can I use without additional amps? Will it be enough for all 11 channels, like 100-150W each?
Can I use it with Aperion Audio Theatrus T65S Slim (4 Ohm, 20-250 W) speakers?

PS A manager at the AV-shop told me that they have the M2 version (MkII) with fixed HDMI or videochip, somelike this. I couldn't find any details out there. Is this true?
It is a high current design, so it should be able to handle your 4ohm speakers without stress.

Having said that, if you are running 7 speakers all nominally 4ohm but with a minimum of 1.6ohm (like my own Gallo speakers) - it might be pushing things! - But most 4ohm speakers don't dip down that far, and most configurations only have the "difficult" speakers as front LR or LCR... with "easier" speakers for surround and height duties.

I previously had two direct ancestors to the RX70 (Integra DTR70.4 and Onkyo SR876) - these both had well nigh identical specifications to the current RX70 - and they handled my difficult and inefficient speakers without issues.
My brand new Integra DRX3.4 (equivalent to Onkyo NR7100) - does NOT handle my speakers well, and I therefore run things with external power amps... - which I would not require if I was running an RZ70.

(I am waiting for the release of Dirac ART on Integra/Onkyo before hopefully upgrading and simplifying my setup ....ie: removing the external power amps!)

And P.S. there was no upgrade of chips on the Onkyo family.... it sounds like the AV shop guy was mixing up the Denon/Marantz family with the Onkyo/Integra family.

The Onkyo did have HDMI and DSP chipset issues in the AVR's released between circa 2008 and 2015 - but none of that applies to the current generation of equipment. (sadly it applied to the models that I owned :( )
 
Thanks, folks!
In fact both setups (with 7 and 11 speakers) will be fine with RZ70, right?
Perhaps you may have any suggestions here? I mean exact models or series. I have in mind something like KEF Ci3160RLM-THX (in-wall) or Klipsch THX-5000-LCR (on-wall).

And one more thing (though it's not strictly on the topic): for a baffle wall it's better using in-wall or on-wall speakers (sealed)?
 
It is a high current design, so it should be able to handle your 4ohm speakers without stress.

Having said that, if you are running 7 speakers all nominally 4ohm but with a minimum of 1.6ohm (like my own Gallo speakers) - it might be pushing things! - But most 4ohm speakers don't dip down that far, and most configurations only have the "difficult" speakers as front LR or LCR... with "easier" speakers for surround and height duties.

I previously had two direct ancestors to the RX70 (Integra DTR70.4 and Onkyo SR876) - these both had well nigh identical specifications to the current RX70 - and they handled my difficult and inefficient speakers without issues.
My brand new Integra DRX3.4 (equivalent to Onkyo NR7100) - does NOT handle my speakers well, and I therefore run things with external power amps... - which I would not require if I was running an RZ70.

(I am waiting for the release of Dirac ART on Integra/Onkyo before hopefully upgrading and simplifying my setup ....ie: removing the external power amps!)

And P.S. there was no upgrade of chips on the Onkyo family.... it sounds like the AV shop guy was mixing up the Denon/Marantz family with the Onkyo/Integra family.

The Onkyo did have HDMI and DSP chipset issues in the AVR's released between circa 2008 and 2015 - but none of that applies to the current generation of equipment. (sadly it applied to the models that I owned :( )
Do you happen to know who made the DSP chipset for those older Onkyos?
 
Thanks, folks!
In fact both setups (with 7 and 11 speakers) will be fine with RZ70, right?
Perhaps you may have any suggestions here? I mean exact models or series. I have in mind something like KEF Ci3160RLM-THX (in-wall) or Klipsch THX-5000-LCR (on-wall).

And one more thing (though it's not strictly on the topic): for a baffle wall it's better using in-wall or on-wall speakers (sealed)?
You'll have no problem powering 9 channels but 2 will be via outboard amps. I'm not a fan of in-wall speakers but they may work fine for you. It puts sound into the wall and that can be iffy. I prefer standalone speakers but that's just me. Acoustically, the enclosures are designed to mitigate resonances and don't have the issue of transmitting vibrations into interior walls which an adacent room will notice. I love mine, my first Onkyo, as under Sharp Electronics they now have the backing of a multi-billion dollar company whose technology will only make Onkyo better and more competitive with the market best, Denon. I've had 3 Denons prior to this one.
 
You'll have no problem powering 9 channels but 2 will be via outboard amps. I'm not a fan of in-wall speakers but they may work fine for you. It puts sound into the wall and that can be iffy. I prefer standalone speakers but that's just me. Acoustically, the enclosures are designed to mitigate resonances and don't have the issue of transmitting vibrations into interior walls which an adacent room will notice. I love mine, my first Onkyo, as under Sharp Electronics they now have the backing of a multi-billion dollar company whose technology will only make Onkyo better and more competitive with the market best, Denon. I've had 3 Denons prior to this one.
Unlike the RZ50, the RZ70 can power 9 channels without needing an outboard amp (I believe)....
 
You'll have no problem powering 9 channels but 2 will be via outboard amps. I'm not a fan of in-wall speakers but they may work fine for you. It puts sound into the wall and that can be iffy. I prefer standalone speakers but that's just me. Acoustically, the enclosures are designed to mitigate resonances and don't have the issue of transmitting vibrations into interior walls which an adacent room will notice. I love mine, my first Onkyo, as under Sharp Electronics they now have the backing of a multi-billion dollar company whose technology will only make Onkyo better and more competitive with the market best, Denon. I've had 3 Denons prior to this one.
Unlike the RZ50, the RZ70 can power 9 channels without needing an outboard amp (I believe)....
Both the RZ50 and RZ70 can process 11 channels but the RZ50 can only do 9 on internal amps.

 
Why only 9 channels? It states that it has 11 channels of amplification. I'm considering RZ70, not RZ50.
Correct, all 11 channels are amplified and you will not need outboard amps.
 
Why only 9 channels? It states that it has 11 channels of amplification. I'm considering RZ70, not RZ50.
Correct, all 11 channels are amplified and you will not need outboard amps.
My mistake, 11 amplified channels for the RZ70 (and I own the RZ70), I use outboard higher wattage power amps despite the outstanding measurements and listening impressions of the amps within it. For a variety of reasons I would never buy an Onkyo, but the the 50 & 70 were designed with Sharp Electronics, a giant powerhouse in electronics.
 
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