Onkyo TX-RZ30

[Timcognito]

Your Netflix player could do it, when starting a trailer.

My 10 yr old Onkyo AVR does that. I was thinking of getting this new one after some reviews but now I'm starting to rethink it.

 

[perceptionist]

You can see what components are inside here.
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-17717-1-1.html

vs. RZ50
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-14657-1-1.html

& RZ70
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-16637-1-1.html

For example, they say RZ30 uses two 10000uF capacitors, RZ50 uses two 15000uF, and RZ70 uses two 18000uF.

 

[EWL5]

You can see what components are inside here.
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-17717-1-1.html

vs. RZ50
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-14657-1-1.html

& RZ70
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-16637-1-1.html

For example, they say RZ30 uses two 10000uF capacitors, RZ50 uses two 15000uF, and RZ70 uses two 18000uF.

No surprise the RZ30 guts are nearly identical to the RZ50's!

I would imagine it's nearly identical to the 7100 save for the upgraded HDMI ports and discrete SW outputs (2 10000uF capacitors was also confirmed for 7100).

Onkyo TX-NR7100 評測：Dirac上身，重新定義五萬元級環繞擴大機的C/P值標準

光比較客觀條件，Onkyo TX-NR7100就已經具備兩大優勢：就算是價格已經很實惠的日系環繞擴大機，9.2聲道機種最起碼也要五萬多，五萬元以下就只能買到7.2聲道機種，但TX-NR7100這部9.2聲道環繞擴大機參考售價竟不到五萬，更誇張的是它比其他有Dirac空間校正的綜合擴大機和環繞擴大機都便宜，不僅創新低價、Dirac Live校正還是 ...

www.audionet.com.tw

 

[Rottmannash]

I just purchased the RZ30 over the holidays to replace a Marantz SR5006 that was over a decade old. So far so good, but I'm not sure if this is the same thing you're referring to but anytime I'm on Netflix browsing for something to watch and when I scroll from one show to the next it will play the audio for each shows trailer and click. For example, I'll be on the the thumbnail for Squidgame, the trailer will start and the receiver will make this click when the audio starts, then I'll move from Squidgame to another show like Narcos, the receiver clicks and the Squidgame audio stops, half a second later it clicks again and the audio from the Narcos trailer starts. And it does this every single time I move from one show to the next. It's really really annoying. Does it on Prime Video app as well, but it doesn't do it on Peacock which makes it even more random. Anyone have any ideas how to stop it?

Netflix is the worst for this. I assumed it was due to the different audio on the shows previewed (DD+ vs Atmos, etc).

 

[Timcognito]

Netflix is the worst for this. I assumed it was due to the different audio on the shows previewed (DD+ vs Atmos, etc).

Agree with @Rottmannash my 10 year old Onkyo does relay clicking as Netflix switches shows or promotions. OP issue could be the same or something new or both.

 

[jomo]

No surprise the RZ30 guts are nearly identical to the RZ50's!

I would imagine it's nearly identical to the 7100 save for the upgraded HDMI ports and discrete SW outputs (2 10000uF capacitors was also confirmed for 7100).

Onkyo TX-NR7100 評測：Dirac上身，重新定義五萬元級環繞擴大機的C/P值標準

光比較客觀條件，Onkyo TX-NR7100就已經具備兩大優勢：就算是價格已經很實惠的日系環繞擴大機，9.2聲道機種最起碼也要五萬多，五萬元以下就只能買到7.2聲道機種，但TX-NR7100這部9.2聲道環繞擴大機參考售價竟不到五萬，更誇張的是它比其他有Dirac空間校正的綜合擴大機和環繞擴大機都便宜，不僅創新低價、Dirac Live校正還是 ...

www.audionet.com.tw

The RZ-30 and NR7100 use some lower grade TK “audio” caps in the R, L, C amplifier circuits. The silver “audio” caps in the RZ-50/70 are supposedly high grade audio caps. There are also a few Nichicon caps in these amps as well. All “custom” PS caps appear to be Nichicon as well as all the surface mount caps. They have been using Nichicon for critical caps for quite a while as they had some cap issues a decade or so ago.

 

[vivid]

Agree with @Rottmannash my 10 year old Onkyo does relay clicking as Netflix switches shows or promotions. OP issue could be the same or something new or both.

It's not an issue. It's by design. 2ch vs multi channels connect / disconnect. Because number of output channels is changed. Select some DD or DTS upmixing preset (when 2.0 input is playing) and Onkyo never click again.

 

[dlaloum]

It's not an issue. It's by design. 2ch vs multi channels connect / disconnect. Because number of output channels is changed. Select some DD or DTS upmixing preset (when 2.0 input is playing) and Onkyo never click again.

I run with DSur upmixing, and almost never hear a click.... it is also my preferred alternative for the vast majority of sources and formats

 

[Rottmannash]

I will have to check but I believe the sound briefly goes out just after the preview in Netflix has ended and the new one appears visually, then a click and sound returns-rinse and repeat w/ almost every change in preview. I need to set it to DolbySurround and see if this silent gap disappears.

 

[valerianf]

When using DS up-mixing is there a way to adjust the center Width?
The idea is sending more sound to FR and FL as Dolby Pro logic II allows to do it.

 

[vivid]

When using DS up-mixing is there a way to adjust the center Width?
The idea is sending more sound to FR and FL as Dolby Pro logic II allows to do it.

Yes, but only Yes/No option. No slider or custom value (%) options.
Setup-> Audio Adjust/Dolby Digital/Center Spread->Yes

 

[valerianf]

My Yamaha RXA700 just went bad these last days.
I just ordered a Onkyo TX RZ30.
I hope that it will do the job.

 

[valerianf]

I have received the Onkyo TX RZ30 and started using it.
For now I have played manually with the settings.
The RZ30 movie track decoding is for sure more performant that my old Yamaha RXA700.
The dialogs and effects are more crisp because the high frequencies were attenuated and muddy with RXA700 when the DSP activated.
The side effect is that on 2.0 TV broadcast the dialog is very subject to high frequency sibilance.
This is very annoying and may force me to modify the passive crossover of my center speaker.

I confirm that a relay is clicking each time the pause button is activated/desactivated for a video.
The amplifier stay cold and is powerful enough for driving some 3 way speakers (2 large columns and a center).
Next step will be using Dirac.

 

[vivid]

I confirm that a relay is clicking each time the pause button is activated/desactivated for a video.

Solution for this, is here.

 

[MbphotoX]

that's a weird solution.. some people are purists and want the signal to remain un-altered, not "upmixed".

With regards to "crisper highs" and stuff.. and the Yamaha making highs "muddy"..
sounds like your living room might be a bathroom

if there's too much echo of the high frequencies, then Dirac will also dial the highs back to counter that.

if you want to avoid this, without reducing the impact of Dirac through gating it, I would suggest getting some curtains and a rug first and foremost.

 

[Rottmannash]

Solution for this, is here.

Pretty certain the "click" occurs when volume is lowered or raised from a set level where rail voltage changes-at least that's the consensus on AVS Forum on the RZ50 thread. I know if I am playing RZ50 fairly loud and quickly turn volume down there is a predictable "click".

 

[valerianf]

Pretty certain the "click" occurs when volume is lowered or raised from a set level

With the RZ30 there is not click when moving the volume.
It is only when activating "play/pause" on a streaming channel as You Tube Tv.
But on Netflix I did not notice it.
For now I have tackled the sibilance with a proper manual EQ.
Biggest problem is that twice I lost twice the sound capability when keeping the video working.
I guess that it is an issue with the Amazon Fire stick 4k.
During that mess no audio input is working.
I need to find a fix.

 

[dlaloum]

With the RZ30 there is not click when moving the volume.
It is only when activating "play/pause" on a streaming channel as You Tube Tv.
But on Netflix I did not notice it.
For now I have tackled the sibilance with a proper manual EQ.
Biggest problem is that twice I lost twice the sound capability when keeping the video working.
I guess that it is an issue with the Amazon Fire stick 4k.
During that mess no audio input is working.
I need to find a fix.

Amazon Firestick has a history of HDMI compatibility issues, and mysterious problems that disappear as soon as it is unplugged (ie: problems with other HDMI inputs while the firestick is plugged in!)

 

[Rottmannash]

With the RZ30 there is not click when moving the volume.
It is only when activating "play/pause" on a streaming channel as You Tube Tv.
But on Netflix I did not notice it.
For now I have tackled the sibilance with a proper manual EQ.
Biggest problem is that twice I lost twice the sound capability when keeping the video working.
I guess that it is an issue with the Amazon Fire stick 4k.
During that mess no audio input is working.
I need to find a fix.

Are you using outboard amps or the internal RZ30 amps?

 

[valerianf]

The RZ30 is driving directly two large tower speakers and a center.
Another amplifier is driving the 2 surround speakers.
The configuration is 5.0