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Onkyo TX-RZ30

Has anyone been able to confirm the DAC? Cheers
This was revealed back in Feb from the first link in the post below (from this very thread).


If you have Google translate the web page, the English translation reads:

"Then the audio decoding block is equipped with a 24-bit 8-channel Burr-Brown PCM1690 chip for the main channel, and two Burr-Brown PCM5101A chips are responsible for the digital-to-analog conversion of the secondary channels".

No surprise there since we speculated this all along!
 
Firmware is another potential advantage, as it seems the 50 is EOL and the last ever firmware has been released
How do you know it's the last? It appears some folks are reporting a 5-6 dB bass boost bug when using 2 SWs under DLBC. Folks in AVS think it may be a failure to divide the signal by 2 (the number of SWs).
 
I used to be a staunch, diehard Onkyo fan, going back to when a college friend of mine first turned me onto the brand. In that time, I've owned a few of their pieces, including a TX-SR600 (which served as my first AVR for a small 5.1 setup I had in a studio apartment I was in at the time, and which I still have and run as a music hub in my wife's office/our workout room), the now-legendary TX-SR605 and a TX-8555 stereo receiver (still used in the separate two-channel rig in our upstairs loft area). When the 605 began to exhibit malfunctioning, namely with regard to an HDMI MONITOR OUT port that eventually degraded into weird blue "distortion" on the setup menu screen (to the point I couldn't see it really anymore, and until it locked up the setup system, forcing me to power the unit off and then back on), I decided to replace it (and I LOVED this AVR - robust, in-your-face power delivery regardless of its "rated" 90WPC and nice fit-and-finish for its price class) -- and, of course, I wanted another Onk.

I learned that, unfortunately, Sharp/Voxx/Premium Audio Group/Whatever They Call Themselves Now made some pretty big changes to the functionality of their AVRs, one of which was a deal-breaker for me: One was the elimination of the super-helpful "IntelliVolume" feature, which allowed you to adjust each source plugged into the amp individually on a preamp level in a range from -12dB to +12dB (almost like an old power amp's "sensitivity gain" control), and the other was the removal of showing both the input name and sound mode you were in at the same time on the front panel. Where on old Onkyos you would see, say, "BD/DVD" and then "DTS-HD MSTR" on the front panel, the newer Onks would simply show the input name and volume level, forcing you to press a button on the remote to confirm what the AVR was decoding (and then it wouldn't remain on that -- after a few seconds, it would return to the input name and volume).

This latter revision to their units was, as I said, a deal-breaker to me, because I like to glance at the actual front readout of my AVRs and see what's being decoded and what mode I'm in.

After some research, I ended up with a Denon AVR-X2800h, as the Denons DID offer units with a "Source Level Adjustment" (much like Onkyo's "IntelliVolume") and a front readout that showed sound mode (albeit very abbreviated with monikers like "DTHD" or "DTSHD," which I really don't care for) and input name simultaneously. I gotta say, though...after living with the Denon for about a year now, I MUCH prefer the Onkyo house sound, which I'd describe as much more aggressive, forceful and in-your-face.

I had my eye on the RZ30 ever since it launched, as it seemed the better fit for our particular needs with our current 5.1 setup (in the RZ lineup anyway), and I preferred its more robust build quality compared to, say, the 6100 and 7100 (I wouldn't consider a 5100 or lower). However, PAG/Voxx/Sharp still hasn't made that change to the software allowing is to see the input name and sound mode at the same time -- even though I actually spoke with a rep from the corporation via email about it and an actual petition was signed over at AVS to get them to make these changes via firmware updates -- and there still is no "IntelliVolume" equivalent; I could live without the IntelliVolume, I suppose, but the front panel thing I just can't.

At any rate, as I said, I'd definitely be interested in an RZ30, but I'm afraid it, too, would be a bit overkill for our needs (only 5.1, no intention of utilizing Dirac, et al) -- still, I really love the aesthetics of the amp and the apparent build quality, so I still have it on my radar...

Is the faceplate and volume knob of the 30 made of aluminum, as the pictures suggest?
 
The current generation of AVRs from PAC (RZ30/70/805/DRX-8.4) all display the codec on the front-panel display by default:

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Also, there's a feature called "My Input Volume" which seems to do what you're asking for:

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Good day. I am considering purchasing the RZ30. If I use a power amplifier for the fronts, is it possible to disable the built-in amplifier in the menu? I did not find this in the manual. As an alternative, I am also looking at the Denon 3800.
 
Good day. I am considering purchasing the RZ30. If I use a power amplifier for the fronts, is it possible to disable the built-in amplifier in the menu? I did not find this in the manual. As an alternative, I am also looking at the Denon 3800.
That model has analog pre-amplifier outputs so you can drive some channels on those and others on main the mains.
 
That model has analog pre-amplifier outputs so you can drive some channels on those and others on main the mains.
Yes, I know about this. But I asked about switching off the internal power on main channels during using of external amplifier instead.
 
Maybe I'm missing something but if the the amplified outputs are not connected to anything they are de-facto off, maybe idling at low (sleeping) wattage.
 
Yes, I know about this. But I asked about switching off the internal power on main channels during using of external amplifier instead.
I don't think it has that capability.

However the unused internal amps use negligible amounts of power....

I run externally powered LCR... the AVR alone uses very little power (it does not take much to drive the surrounds and heights... most of the load is at the front)
 

I don't think it has that capability.

However the unused internal amps use negligible amounts of power....

I run externally powered LCR... the AVR alone uses very little power (it does not take much to drive the surrounds and heights... most of the load is at the front)
Do you hear benefit of disabling part of the amplification for remaining channels (not LCR). Is there an audible positive effect?
 
Do you hear benefit of disabling part of the amplification for remaining channels (not LCR). Is there an audible positive effect?
My AVR is the Integra DRX3.4 - a close relative but not a clone of the RZ30.

There is no disabling of the amplification circuitry... the amp circuitry receives the signals from the preamp circuits, whether it is connected to speakers or not... However without speakers "closing the circuit" at the outputs - it sits there idle...

Using external amps (for LCR) improved the performance audibly, primarily because the DRX3.4 internal amps do not handle low impedance "difficult" speaker loads well. (I would expect the RZ30 to behave the same way, as I believe its amps are identical to the DRX3.4 & NR7100)

Putting my speakers on amps that can easily and without audible degradation, handle loads down to 1 ohm - provides definite benefits WITH MY SPEAKERS. (ie: this is not universal, it applies to speakers with very low impedances, and/or susbtantial phase angles, and other "reactive" issues)

The amps that I compared to included the following (all of which handle my speakers well, unlike the DRX3.4) :
Quad 606
Quad 707
Crown XLS2500
Integra DTR70.4
Onkyo SR876

(The last two being AVR's of previous generations, which are of similar capabilities to the RZ70/DRX8.4 current models - and show the advantages of the more capable amps in the flagship models)

I don't believe that physically disconnecting the internal amp circuitry (an ability available on the RZ70) will substantively / audibly affect the results - but it may save a couple of watts.
 
Can anyone confirm whether the RZ30's face and volume knob are made of metal or not?
 
I just checked: all is plastic, but quality is good.
I miss my old Marantz with the metal face plate and the blue lights.
Alas time has passed.
 
I have not used one recently but I believe the Onkyo-related, 'Integra' brand of AVR's and stereo receivers are fitted with a volume knob and face plate of metal.
 
Can anyone confirm whether the RZ30's face and volume knob are made of metal or not?

I have not used one recently but I believe the Onkyo-related, 'Integra' brand of AVR's and stereo receivers are fitted with a volume knob and face plate of metal.
There is however no equivalent to the RZ30 in the Integra range (which is sad!)

The DRX3.4 is like an NR7100 with a full set of pre-outs.... or like an RZ30 but with only one Sub Channel

And like the NR7100, no DLBC as been released for the DRX3.4 - which most likely means there is no chance of there being Dirac ART for it either.

(a pure marketing decision as the processing capabilities are the same as the RZ50 which has received DLBC)
 
I just checked: all is plastic, but quality is good.
I miss my old Marantz with the metal face plate and the blue lights.
Alas time has passed.
Are you absolutely sure about that? They look aluminum-esque in all the pictures...

That's disappointing for a unit at the RZ level.
 
I have not used one recently but I believe the Onkyo-related, 'Integra' brand of AVR's and stereo receivers are fitted with a volume knob and face plate of metal.
I hate the Integra's aesthetics, though (with those concave faceplates and hideous silver knobs/buttons).
 
@J. Lohmann
Today I looked at the front facia more carefully, with a lamp and a magnet.
Nothing is magnetic at the front, contrary to the side enclosure.
It may be a non magnetic metal (aluminum?) front facia.
About the volume button, my guess is that it is plastic, as the two rotary button on the left.

But let us be realistic: the front facia looks good.
It is far better than a Yamaha Advantage.
 
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