New mysterious Genelec monitors

[FrantzM]

There is
But still Focal , Dynaudio , Genelec and practically anyone else update their drivers after such a long period

If these meet their performance objectives.. Why should they? Building things means at times, to reuse available and trusted parts, components or techniques. Innovation takes many forms. That tendency to equate innovation with changing parts is misguided. Let's not project out our FOMO...

Peace.

 

[617]

10 years isn't that long in tranducer years. Sennheiser has been making the same headphone driver for 30 years. The Seas DXT is over fifteen years old.

 

[Spocko]

There is
But still Focal , Dynaudio , Genelec and practically anyone else update their drivers after such a long period

i think moving to ribbon tweeters have been the "big thing" for many companies including Adam.

 

[unpluggged]

i think moving to ribbon tweeters have been the "big thing" for many companies including Adam.

AMT is not the same as ribbon tweeter.

 

[kma100]

There is
But still Focal , Dynaudio , Genelec and practically anyone else update their drivers after such a long period

Are you back to your "change for the sake of change"? I feel that if you ever get Genelec speakers you will be very disappointed. I suspect you have built this up in your head way too much.

 

[617]

We really need to start normalizing soffit mounted designs.

 

[ocinn]

No cardioid radiation, otherwise we'd definitely know about it. I think there are only 3 true cardioid speaker companies: Kii, D&D and Geithan. I'm surprised Genelec with its software expertise doesn't have one in development.

W371 is cardioid, probably one of the best and most flexible implementations out there. If you consider Geithan true cardioid, then Siberg Manta is also a cardioid. Mesanovic offerings are *kinda* cardioid.

 

[DSJR]

So would you say actives are just a gimmick? A 2k active system would be better sounding than a 2k complete passive system? For home use that is, say in a 18-20sqm room, 2m listening distance

Actives are most definitely NOT a gimick!!!!

The domestic market has got itself into the classic audiophool upgrade syndrome, where a better source, better amp and better speakers keep the corporate wheels turning and dealers in business ever hopeful of an 'upgrade' sale.. The thing is, if you buy a modern active solution, usually with specialised electronics built in, it's all done for you. The general domestic audio market has yet to accept this and also, the room acoustics are largely ignored, this aspect being dealt with by mixing and matching the gear excessively, rather than sorting the room itself out at source as best as possible!

So yeah, with careful choices, a £2k active system should *potentially* out perform (and sound better/clearer) than a same price passive. Just my take - and I speak as one who's got a good passive system but not the funds or current inclination to sell it all and return to active at least until we move house which has been threatened for some good while now but which will happen in the next few years at most...

 

[Spocko]

AMT is not the same as ribbon tweeter.

Sorry, I just assumed AMT was a subset of ribbon but yes, I meant specifically AMT dedicated tweeters.

 

[Spocko]

W371 is cardioid, probably one of the best and most flexible implementations out there. If you consider Geithan true cardioid, then Siberg Manta is also a cardioid. Mesanovic offerings are *kinda* cardioid.

WHOA, didn't know W371 is cardioid - learn something new everyday

 

[AlmaAtaKZ]

Is there any chance that they're actually just weird looking bass ports?View attachment 284599

I think yes

 

[PatentLawyer]

Interesting.
I had dinner recently with an old friend who did all the modelling and prototyping the BMR as a consultant to NXT.

He told me the patent expires soon and he thinks a lot of people will use it because the technology is excellent but people wouldn’t pay the license fee.
We’ll see!

Damn patents!!

 

[Tks]

Not coaxial? Why bother?

 

[davidperrenoud]

-It has a compression driver-midwoofer coaxial sitting inside a deep horn.
-2 or 4 mid dome drivers are beam steering to control lobbing in the directivity.
-It has 2 woofers, one large midwoofer to make midbass loudness match with the loudness of the compression driver. Another driver to give speakers sub bass extension.

This.

I am guessing 4 midrange drivers and 2 bass drivers in addition to the 2 coaxial drivers of The Ones as shown by @gr-e. The second bass driver would be positioned in the back (at the top?) similar to the W371 to help cancel the null modes of the rooms. The 4 midrange drivers would give complete control of the directivity up to 3000 Hz or more:

How huge will this thing be? The W371 is already a 140 liters, 60 kg system.

 

[Sokel]

Using the same tweeter for over 10 years is indeed innovative

you know that the pro woofers shown in that photo are maybe 30-40 years old (or even older),right?

 

[davidperrenoud]

It is going to look so weird:

 

[Curvature]

Educated speculation is better than none.

 

[AlmaAtaKZ]

Join our Global Launch Event - Genelec.com

Genelec is delighted to report that, on Tuesday the 16th of May at 15:00 EEST, we are launching a powerful and surprising new addition to our industry-leading range of professional monitoring solutions.

www.genelec.com

It's It was in the image title.

Yeah they changed the link. The old image is still available though: http://images.ctfassets.net/4zjnzn0...023_8381_Livestream_invite_WEB_1250x703px.jpg

So that's a coaxial, as the name suggests, maybe with a compression driver this time? Hard to see.
The use of different woofers suggests that it has a system similar to W371 integated.

View attachment 284685

These do not look like ports. But multiple mids will be very surprising.

 

[regan]

Actives are most definitely NOT a gimick!!!!

Sorry, i misspelled, i meant to say passives are a gimmick

 

[RobL]

That’s more a horn than waveguide…holy cow that’s deep!