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New mysterious Genelec monitors

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It's It was in the image title.

Yeah they changed the link. The old image is still available though: http://images.ctfassets.net/4zjnzn0...023_8381_Livestream_invite_WEB_1250x703px.jpg

So that's a coaxial, as the name suggests, maybe with a compression driver this time? Hard to see.
The use of different woofers suggests that it has a system similar to W371 integated.

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Excellent detective work!
 
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It's It was in the image title.

Yeah they changed the link. The old image is still available though: http://images.ctfassets.net/4zjnzn0...023_8381_Livestream_invite_WEB_1250x703px.jpg

So that's a coaxial, as the name suggests, maybe with a compression driver this time? Hard to see.
The use of different woofers suggests that it has a system similar to W371 integated.

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If it's indeed 8381
It's weird they skipped 8371 lol
 

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Passive is generally less good - period!!!!!

(Don't matter how exalted the driving power amp is, it still has to fight the drivers through a passive network which always intrudes no matter how expensive it is).
 
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Why use 2 different types of woofers ? What's the advantage ?
 

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This looks like a combo of the high output S360A and the W371A. We can use the line drawings of both provided by Genelec to estimate the size of the mystery speaker, or at least the width of the front baffle.

Assuming the screws are the same as those holding the woofer basket in place for the S360A and W371A (10mm), taking the vertical length in the photograph (which is not as distorted as the horizonal by the viewing angle), and measuring the diameter of the smaller driver mid-surround, it's about 10.5 times larger, which gives 105mm or 4.1". I'd say just over three of them could fit on the front baffle, which makes it likely that the 15" front woofer we've seen in the W371A is a good approximation. It could also be the 12" back woofer, but that does not have the folds in the surround. And then the 10" woofer in the S360A has a different surround altogether.

The front baffle could then well be 400mm or 15 3/4" wide, as with the W371A. I doubt it is a size in the between the latter and the 360mm or 14 3/16" of the S360A. That would be pretty inefficient from a manufacturing perspective and lead to costly optimization work as well for the designers.

So: a high output speaker with a compression driver, with two or four 4" drivers flanking the horn, front baffle 400mm wide. It would be really strange if it sat on top of the W371A, so it's likely a floorstander that's somewhat taller with another back woofer to allow the directivity manipulation we've come to expect. The W371A is 1108mm tall or 43 5/8" (3.6'), so taking a wild guess and accomodating for the size of the horn, let's call this one 1400mm or 55.1" (4.6') tall.

Front baffle looks like a different material from the sides. Might be MDF, like the W371A. The sides look like the same finish as the S360A, so maybe those are birch panels.

@Penelinfi Do you mind making another drawing using the above?
 

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Genelec seamless coax (potentially with compression tweeter instead of dome), itself nested in a quasi-coax configuration with 4 lower midrange domes, plus a 15" woofer is the most logical answer by far, with reference to numbering scheme, likely design aims and gap in lineup for the One-series thinking at main monitor scale!
 
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Passive is generally less good - period!!!!!
So would you say actives are just a gimmick? A 2k active system would be better sounding than a 2k complete passive system? For home use that is, say in a 18-20sqm room, 2m listening distance
 

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Nice to see them continuing to leverage their tech to innovate. If w371a are $10k, these must be at least as much as w371+8361a. I’m guessing US$17000/each. :)
 
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Nice to see them continuing to leverage their tech to innovate. If w371a are $10k, these must be at least as much as w371+8361a. I’m guessing US$17000/each. :)
Don't give them ideas :)
 
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Genelec seamless coax (potentially with compression tweeter instead of dome), itself nested in a quasi-coax configuration with 4 lower midrange domes, plus a 15" woofer is the most logical answer by far, with reference to numbering scheme, likely design aims and gap in lineup for the One-series thinking at main monitor scale!
This is my thinking as well. Basically they are taking their existing soffit mounted design with a big woofer and a vertical array of waveguides for M/T and turning it into one 3 way coaxial thing. Similar in some ways to a unity horn except the lowest drivers are direct radiating.

Very high tech stuff. Lots of speaker makers making very refined products these days but if Genelec is making a (performant) version of what I said they really are a generation ahead of other designers. Really inspiring to be honest. Makes everything from Meyer to Augsperger to Neumann look old fashioned.
 

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This is how Genelec employees reading this thread must feel:

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Very high tech stuff. Lots of speaker makers making very refined products these days but if Genelec is making a (performant) version of what I said they really are a generation ahead of other designers. Really inspiring to be honest. Makes everything from Meyer to Augsperger to Neumann look old fashioned.

Except there are many contrarians who refuse to believe top performance comes from a brand with widespread distribution, and an absence of boutique wankery. Meyer and Augsperger are more capricious, expensive, difficult to set up and harder to access and therefore must be better or what's the point?

Popular strain of magical thinking in this hobby.
 

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Except there are many contrarians who refuse to believe top performance comes from a brand with widespread distribution, and an absence of boutique wankery. Meyer and Augsperger are more capricious, expensive, difficult to set up and harder to access and therefore must be better or what's the point?

Popular strain of magical thinking in this hobby.
This is why Genelec is correct to make their speakers look like space-ships. They deliberately celebrate the technology behind their speakers with exotic yet purposeful industrial design. Nobody who wants a Westlake monitor will buy a Genelec, so you might as well make them look like something out of Evangelion.
 
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