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New integrated from miniDSP: SHD Power

Martin

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Very interesting... I like the plain SHD (I have good amplifiers). It looks like I could use it to replace my Raspberry Pi running Volumio, a DAC and my preamp. Then I'd have Dirac Live in my stereo, an input for my phono preamp, out puts for both pairs of monoblock amplifiers and a headphone amp. Very interesting indeed.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...nts-of-minidsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/

Looks like it measures quite well, too, except for the jitter which while present is inaudible below -120db.

I may need to seriously consider this alternative...

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This is my understanding of what can be done with SHD devices. Please cite specific references and or actual first hand experience if the following cannot work.

SHD Power desktop system physical configuration:
Active monitors - hooked up to AES digital outs
Passive subs - hooked up to amp outputs
Headphone amp - hooked up to unbalanced analog out

SHD config/preset #1 (listen to speakers):
R/L channels - routed to active monitors (2 channels, hi passed)
Subs - routed to internal amps (2 channels, low passed)
Dirac - active

SHD config/preset #2 (listen to headphones):
R/L channels - routed to analog outputs into headphone amp (2-channels, full range)
Subs - not routed to any output
Dirac - bypassed

Hi rvsixer,

I too think you are absolutely right. I do have a miniDSP SHD, if that helps.
From the manual and my SHD experience where applicable, the mapping
is as follows. The left column is the default name used in the Routing matrix.

Output 1 --> AES/EBU channel 1 & Left internal amplifier
Output 2 --> AES/EBU channel 2 & Right internal amplifier
Output 3 --> AES/EBU channel 3 & RCA analog out (back panel labeled as Sub Out 1)
Output 4 --> AES/EBU channel 4 & RCA analog out (back panel labeled as Sub Out 2)

One could use two presets for the active monitors and the other two presets
for headphone listening. That way you could have two different house curves
for each if desired (or A/B auditioning an alternative configuration).

One would need a way to mute or power off the active speakers when switching
to one of the presets intended for headphone listening. This because the active
monitors and the headphone amp would be sharing output channels 3 & 4.

The subwoofer muting would be automatic by simply not routing signal to the
subwoofers (Output 1 & 2 in this use case) within the headphone presets. So,
no extra step when switching back and forth between active monitors and
headphone. The presets would also take care of enabling or bypassing the
the high pass and low pass filters used for bass management.
 
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For a month or more now, I've been thinking of doing something similar with
my miniDSP SHD. In the same room, I have an Oppo HA-1 headphone DAC/Amp.
Yeah, I was a little dissapointed when the HA-1 didn't test so well here.

In my case, I could run either analog or one of the digital outputs from the SHD to
the HA-1. There are some folks using the miniDSP EARS to calibrate (sometimes
with Dirac Live) their various headphones. Anyhow, thought it might be a fun
experiment.
 
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When going through the newly update SHD Series manual, I noticed that there is a new
SHD remote control. The manual shows both the new remote and the former remote,
which they call the "Legacy miniDSP Remote".

I had been thinking about placing an order for a second spare remote, the Wi-Fi dongle
that was not included in earlier shipments of the SHD Series, and perhaps the EARS.
Now I'm thinking I'd order one or two of the new remotes. Being able to skip tracks
with the remote was a feature that I'd been missing.

I and others had noticed that the recent SHD Series firmware update had included
some new IR remote capabilities. However, to take advantage at that time, one
had to resort to using some other IR remote and perform some kind of learning.
Now it's become apparent that the firmware update was a prelude to the introduction
of the new remote control. I'm excited.
 

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Just noticed the new remote in the new SHD manual. Gotta get me one of those.
 
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Hmm. I just noticed on the SHD Series Feature Comparison table on
the miniDSP web site that the RCA analog outs of the SHD Power are
using a Cirrus Logic CS43130 DAC instead of the AKM4490EQ used
by the SHD.

I'm wondering if the fidelity of the SHD Power's analog outs would be
any better or worse than the SHD's? I'm hoping not of lower fidelity
for sake of those who might want to use the RCA outs for something
other than subwoofers.
 
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Curiously, the CS43130 is a stereo DAC with headphone amp lol (so designed for full range). The best one could hope for here I think, is they used the Cirrus part only for the line level analog out, and used the AKM for the amp section.

Me thinks I am headed back to original plan of using SHD and not SHD Power.
 

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Any idea what is this amp based on? ESS Sabre or AKM DAC? ICEpower or NCore amps?

Embedded PCM1395 DAC chipset + TPA3255 Class D chipset

I think minidsp tried to reduce the cost considerably compared to the price of the product.

The amplifier of this price should have at least a hypex ncore module.

hmm... Tpa3255.. , not even ice power.
 
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Have you heard a TPA3255
 

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Source of info?
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https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power
 
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TPA3255 is... well, better than the Vidar I guess

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The amp version is $600 more than SHD Studio and $300 more than SHD so we should set our expectations accordingly. It's not a $1,500 amp.

Strange that they capped the output at 2x120W (both 4 ohm and 8 ohm). Maybe 120W @ 8 ohm because that's the limit of what they consider acceptable THD at 8 ohm? And then they decided to give it just a 120W power supply so the 4 ohm becomes power-supply-limited, too. It's kind of a logical cost optimization, possible thanks to switched mode.
 
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What's the use case for this unit with AES/EBU digital outs?

I'm guessing the Balanced digital out is for connecting to another DAC that's connected to another amp/speakers or a CD Recorder.
 

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I'm guessing the Balanced digital out is for connecting to another DAC that's connected to another amp/speakers or a CD Recorder.
The way MiniDSP have shown the SHD Power connected to subwoofers, they use the AES/EBU digital out into their PWR-ICE subwoofer plate amplifiers with AES/EBU inputs. This reduces additional AD/DA converters in the chain of components.
 

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https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power

Love the form factor, Nox Vidmate VLC love the functionality, a 3rd pair of channels for a headphone amp is the only notable omission.

Amp details are sketchy (at a skim).

I hope this integrated gets the Amir treatment!
It was more exciting to see updates available for my SHD though. The functionality they have added with the last update was pretty neat, I can control volume in Roon and the screen changes with it. The ability to go into standby is a no brainer and should have been there from the beginning.
 
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$22 shipping for the US. Yikes.
Yeah I've decided to wait until it's available from a US dealer or if I buy something else directly from miniDSP. The only new feature I was looking forward to on this remote is the transport controls but I don't like using the built in Volumio streamer right now anyway.
 

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Now this is impressive. A perfect solution for a secondary (2 channel only) system with bass management and room correction.
Interesting that they took up a good portion of the back with AES/EBU ouputs rather than an analog input. What's the use case for this unit with AES/EBU digital outs?

Studio monitors?
 
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