New integrated from miniDSP: SHD Power

[jhaider]

https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power

Love the form factor, love the functionality, a 3rd pair of channels for a headphone amp is the only notable omission.

Amp details are sketchy (at a skim).

I hope this integrated gets the Amir treatment!

 

[rvsixer]

...a 3rd pair of channels for a headphone amp is the only notable omission.

In addition to a speaker-out config/preset, you could use one of the three other available configs/presets to run full range out the sub-outs with a headphone amp attached.

 

[Ron Texas]

Interesting all in one solution.

 

[MZKM]

I hate when rated wattage states 8 & 4 ohm, as obviously that isn’t true.

Still, >90dB SINAD @ 1kHz at 10W into 4ohm and >80dB for 120W is pretty good.

They also state:
• 86dB+ @100Hz at 1-100W
• 60dB+ @20Hz-20kHz at 0.06-100W into 8ohm
• 70dB+ @20Hz-20kHz at 0.06-100W into 4ohm

 

[bogart]

Interesting all in one solution.

Not to mention the physical dimensions are downright tiny.

 

[waynel]

Now this is impressive. A perfect solution for a secondary (2 channel only) system with bass management and room correction.
Interesting that they took up a good portion of the back with AES/EBU ouputs rather than an analog input. What's the use case for this unit with AES/EBU digital outs?

 

[Thomas Savage]

I consolidated the two threads on this topic

 

[MZKM]

Now this is impressive. A perfect solution for a secondary (2 channel only) system with bass management and room correction.
Interesting that they took up a good portion of the back with AES/EBU ouputs rather than an analog input. What's the use case for this unit with AES/EBU digital outs?

The manual just says to connect downstream digitial equipment. I guess you could hook up a second/third DAC+amp and use it as a secondary & third zones.

 

[rvsixer]

I hate when rated wattage states 8 & 4 ohm, as obviously that isn’t true.

I found this in the manual:
"Over-current protection limits output power to 120 Watts regardless of load impedance. "

 

[Deleted member 2944]

If they had a version without DIRAC and without that high associated cost, it would be pretty neat.

Dave.

 

[MZKM]

I found this in the manual:
"Over-current protection limits output power to 120 Watts regardless of load impedance. "

Well, that stinks, 120W into 8ohm is great, using 4ohm speakers and getting an equivalent of 60W into 8ohm isn’t.

 

[McFly]

Yeah i wonder if this unit is capable of running 6 channels dsp using the internal amp as channels 5&6? I.e. make an active 3 way speaker system

 

[Matias]

Any idea what is this amp based on? ESS Sabre or AKM DAC? ICEpower or NCore amps?

 

[McFly]

Icepower - guessing based on their established products with them already

 

[TimW]

Just got they're newsletter and thought this thing was pretty cool. It was more exciting to see updates available for my SHD though. The functionality they have added with the last update was pretty neat, I can control volume in Roon and the screen changes with it. The ability to go into standby is a no brainer and should have been there from the beginning. They just added the ability to turn it on and off by remote, crazy idea right? But the dinky remote that comes with the unit has no on/off button.

For these premium products they need to release a premium remote with more functionality and nicer feel. I would also like to have a trigger output. It's a shame that this new SHD Power doesn't have analog inputs either.

 

[rvsixer]

Yeah i wonder if this unit is capable of running 6 channels dsp using the internal amp as channels 5&6? I.e. make an active 3 way speaker system

All current SHD's are four channel devices (according to all the readily available online documentation anyway, i.e. available routing, etc.).

 

[dwkdnvr]

I was a bit surprised by this, but I guess I shouldn't have been - it's a logical continuation of the SHD line. I think the price is edging up into being a bit pricey for a relatively unknown brand (or if they're known they're known as budget gear), but OTOH a $300 increment over the standard SHD for what looks like 2 channels of IcePower isn't unreasonable.

I"m also a bit surprised that they chose not just digital outputs over analog nputs, but AES/EBU over coax. Would be curious as to their thinking - particularly given the discussion in the other SHD thread about HT bypass being something of a gap. Omitting the analog inputs makes this a purely 2-channel solution, leaving any multi-channels guys out of the picture.

 

[jhaider]

I was a bit surprised by this, but I guess I shouldn't have been - it's a logical continuation of the SHD line. I think the price is edging up into being a bit pricey for a relatively unknown brand (or if they're known they're known as budget gear), but OTOH a $300 increment over the standard SHD for what looks like 2 channels of IcePower isn't unreasonable.

Given the spec I don’t think it is Icepower. I could be wrong.

I agree that it is a logical extension of the line. My surprise there is they introduced a new form factor. I thought it would be the rack width chassis. The desktop friendly case makes the product better...but also makes me wish I hadn’t bought the SHD Studio...

Interesting that they took up a good portion of the back with AES/EBU ouputs rather than an analog input. What's the use case for this unit with AES/EBU digital outs?

I"m also a bit surprised that they chose not just digital outputs over analog nputs, but AES/EBU over coax. Would be curious as to their thinking - particularly given the discussion in the other SHD thread about HT bypass being something of a gap. Omitting the analog inputs makes this a purely 2-channel solution, leaving any multi-channels guys out of the picture.

It has analog sub outs. I see the use case for AES as compatibility with their PWR-ICE amps, and many active monitors (eg JBL 7-Series, Neumann 310, Genelec).

 

[waynel]

Given the spec I don’t think it is Icepower. I could be wrong.



It has analog sub outs. I see the use case for AES as compatibility with their PWR-ICE amps, and many active monitors (eg JBL 7-Series, Neumann 310, Genelec).

But who would buy this to use with powered digital input monitors? There is the SHD studio for that.

 

[jhaider]

But who would buy this to use with powered digital input monitors? There is the SHD studio for that.

This one has a built in DAC for the subs, so it is more convenient for 2.1 than SHD Studio.