After using KH 150 for two months and a half I can say with confidence that they are seriously impressive monitor speakers. One shouldn't blame any speakers for acoustically compromised room related issues.
What monitors / speakers did you have before ?After a few days or use, I can say that's the best money i've spent on audio Gear.
Absolute clarity.
I wrote to Neumann and in discussion with their engineering staff was assured that the KH150 is completely suitable in my large open plan room, sitting at 2.5m -3m. I was also assured it will manage the 20db of dynamic range that movie formats require in my space.So you STILL unsecure people with this missinformation? Of ocurse it's NOT a very bad idea to use them in a 20qm room!
In fact they will do fine and the narrow dispersion will bring you more direct sound to the listening position and is ESPECIALLY good for wider listening distances! (would not be needed at very close distances and could even be a drawback cause sweetspot is smaller. At 2-3m distance sweetspot is easy big enough)
You won't really be able to remember too accurately how your M&K's sounded, because auditory memory doesn't last that long, but you should be able to tell whether or not you enjoy the Neumann's, and I'd say by the measurements that they'd be utterly fantastic!I'm suffering a wee bit of buyer anxiety before pulling the trigger . I think partly it's that these are a departure from the build density, inertness, silky lacquer and are marketed for studio. I rap on the shell and it rings - I can feel the vibration on the opposing side with hand resting on it. THey are metal or cast plastic ... It shouldn't matter but it does play on my mind... grrr.
I sat for an hour and listened to a genuine AB comparison of the Neumann 80, 120, 150 and 310. I have just sold my home theatre speakers (M&K S150) and the neumann's will be an interim fit if I get them. a KH750 was in place for bass management so I could get a genuine sense of them in the range I'll use.
The 150 and 310 - I could not tell when they had switched between sometimes - and at others it sounded like there was just a bit more emphasis present. I guess that is the way they should be but it makes it hard to choose a purchase!
Pro gear seems less ridiculously priced than "home" / Hi-fi yet even so I think the $3500 M&K passive speaker compared to the $2600 Active KH150 was elevating my anxiety a bit with the notion "it mustn't be as good in some way". Also the "3 tweeters and 2 mids" vs "1 tweeter and 1 mid" thing. Not rational yet still making me a bit uneasy about the direction having not owned such monitors before for home theatre use.
Neumann confirm they will be perfectly good for me and once I pull the trigger and get them I am looking forward to seeing how they compare to my memories of the M&K.
A standout piece of content I like to use is the opening of Bladerunner 2049 - where the car is flying over the solar field and the kitchen scene with the bubbling stove stew and creaking floors etc. I'm hoping it seems even more like i'm standing in the kitchen than the S150 had me feeling .
[just for note: I solde the 150's because I plan a move to new home where I will have a dedicated cinema again and want a larger setup than the S150 offered. I'll use the KH150's for now as LCR speakers and in the new place trhey can be in my Office/computer room or lounge for music listening.]
+1. I did the same at a local hifi show recently, where a pro audio shop was demonstrating the kh80, original 120 and 310s. Probably because it was a reasonably small room and the volume wasn’t that high, I really couldn’t tell the differences between all 3 models. They switched using a monitor switcher so it was almost instantaneous. I was very impressed with the tonal similarity between all models. And if there were any monitors that sounded utterly “neutral” to me, it was them.I'm suffering a wee bit of buyer anxiety before pulling the trigger . I think partly it's that these are a departure from the build density, inertness, silky lacquer and are marketed for studio. I rap on the shell and it rings - I can feel the vibration on the opposing side with hand resting on it. THey are metal or cast plastic ... It shouldn't matter but it does play on my mind... grrr.
I sat for an hour and listened to a genuine AB comparison of the Neumann 80, 120, 150 and 310. I have just sold my home theatre speakers (M&K S150) and the neumann's will be an interim fit if I get them. a KH750 was in place for bass management so I could get a genuine sense of them in the range I'll use.
The 150 and 310 - I could not tell when they had switched between sometimes - and at others it sounded like there was just a bit more emphasis present. I guess that is the way they should be but it makes it hard to choose a purchase!
Pro gear seems less ridiculously priced than "home" / Hi-fi yet even so I think the $3500 M&K passive speaker compared to the $2600 Active KH150 was elevating my anxiety a bit with the notion "it mustn't be as good in some way". Also the "3 tweeters and 2 mids" vs "1 tweeter and 1 mid" thing. Not rational yet still making me a bit uneasy about the direction having not owned such monitors before for home theatre use.
Neumann confirm they will be perfectly good for me and once I pull the trigger and get them I am looking forward to seeing how they compare to my memories of the M&K.
A standout piece of content I like to use is the opening of Bladerunner 2049 - where the car is flying over the solar field and the kitchen scene with the bubbling stove stew and creaking floors etc. I'm hoping it seems even more like i'm standing in the kitchen than the S150 had me feeling .
[just for note: I solde the 150's because I plan a move to new home where I will have a dedicated cinema again and want a larger setup than the S150 offered. I'll use the KH150's for now as LCR speakers and in the new place trhey can be in my Office/computer room or lounge for music listening.]
Can you please, since you are in a position to listen to many in studios, split the auditory band into >1kHz and <1kHz? Literally dial in HPF and LPF. Especially in bad listening environments is the lower and mid frequencies that are room dominated, so those comments are more about the room than about the speakers. At higher frequencies, and the speakerSo I finally got a chance to try the KH150s. This was a less than ideal environment (poorly designed studio, on a console's meter bridge). Still, they are exceptionally detailed and clear. I did find them a bit more mid forward than my KH310s though.
They were only up for a couple days.Can you please, since you are in a position to listen to many in studios, split the auditory band into >1kHz and <1kHz? Literally dial in HPF and LPF. Especially in bad listening environments is the lower and mid frequencies that are room dominated, so those comments are more about the room than about the speakers. At higher frequencies, and the speaker
I know you are familiar with the acoustical theory, but I would hope that by followong that practice you can make better judgments about speaker and room sounds.
I use them in an audiophile setup in an untreated mid sized room and i've used the back panel settings to lower the highs -1dB. I advice everyone in a an untreated environment to try it to counter the room response.They were only up for a couple days.
Anyway, I've worked in that room enough to know its LF response is garbage and it's way too reflective for most monitors to work well, even those with directivity control. Plus, the ~250hz bounce off the console is rough.
That the KH150s were only a little forward around 1k is a testament to their design.
Good to know. What is your listening distance?I use them in an audiophile setup in an untreated mid sized room and i've used the back panel settings to lower the highs -1dB. I advice everyone in a an untreated environment to try it to counter the room response.
They really deliver, still amazed how they destroy a lot of high-end setups i've heard in terms of clarity (well that's kind of their job, but still).
2.5 metersGood to know. What is your listening distance?
I'm using the analog input, no balance or auto-shutdown issue so far; 90 minutes is too long for my taste though, just ordered a random bluetooth power strip to turn them off remotely.Anyone having any issues with their KH 150s? My right speaker peridocally stay on all night (instead of the auto shutoff). I also sometimes need to adjust (push/turn) the monitor cables in my audio interface to get the right speaker to play at full volume. This obviously could be a cable issue, which I will be checking into soon, but I wanted to see if anyone else has encountered a similar issue?