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Matrix Audio X-SABRE Pro MQA: Best Audio DAC in the World?

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Veri,

thank you for your opinion i will speak with friend and will let you know the outcome. Some persons are just stubborn you know :)

regards Michal
 
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There's a handy reference here for what resistor values to use: https://www.goldpt.com/preattenuation.html (You can ignore the stuff about the stepped attenuator on that page if you just want to wire up a fixed in-line attenuator; basically your desired attenuation is what they refer to as "preattenuation".)
Totally forgot about that site, THANKS!
i assume that with an input of 24kohm I should use the 25k resistor values?
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I bet this has been answered before but I haven't been able to find it... Does Matrix Audio get regulatory approvals (i.e. FCC, CE) or do they not bother like most other chi-fi?
 

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I am not sure if I'm allowed to do it here but I have one X-Sabre Pro MQA unit for sale (in black). The DAC is only few months old and in perfect condition. No issues of any kind. If you are interested, please pm me.
 

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I am not sure if I'm allowed to do it here but I have one X-Sabre Pro MQA unit for sale (in black). The DAC is only few months old and in perfect condition. No issues of any kind. If you are interested, please pm me.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm still in the exploring it right now but will be in touch if I reach a decision soon. What are you replacing it with?
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I'm still in the exploring it right now but will be in touch if I reach a decision soon. What are you replacing it with?
I am using Roon Nucleus + which I connected directly via USB cable to my OPPO 205 cd player which uses the same Sabre DACs as the Matrix Audio unit. There is no reason for me to have another DAC with the same sound signature as the OPPO 205.
 
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Not home to check. From what I recall, Dither was On, Mode was Async.
What is the point of D/A converter adding dither? 99% of today's software, CD's, SACD's or Hi Res downloads has already been dithered on the mastering stage and also noise shaped. Adding dither to an already dithered signal adds noise.
 
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I'm having issues getting my Sabre Pro MQA running correctly on USB output on a Windows 10 1909 machine and Tidal. Is this correct?
I see MQA on the display but every time I pause or scroll a track it jumps back to PCM and goes back to MQA, correct?

Regarding foobar2000:
Is the Matrix driver supposed to say "ASIO not active" all the time when Foobar2000 is closed? I've installed the ASIO driver in Foobar2000, together with the SACD plugins.
 

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AFAIK, WASAPI only works with PCM (that’s why you can only choose DoP if you’re using WASAPI) hence the PCM mode switch when scrubbing and pausing tracks. Have you tried outputting MQA using ASIO?
 

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I see MQA on the display but every time I pause or scroll a track it jumps back to PCM and goes back to MQA, correct?

Regarding foobar2000:
Is the Matrix driver supposed to say "ASIO not active" all the time when Foobar2000 is closed? I've installed the ASIO driver in Foobar2000, together with the SACD plugins.
Both are correct.
 

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This gentleman thinks Shiit makes better

The Yggdrasil presents a significantly deeper soundstage than the XSP and an altogether more realistic timbre, though the Yggdrasil’s edge in the latter is much smaller than in the former. The XSP, in contrast, seems to pull ever-so-slightly more detail out of some recordings than the Yggdrasil. I’d hazard to stay that there are other differences between the Matrix and the Schiit when it comes to bass slam (advantage Schiit), left-to-right staging (advantage Matrix), macro-dynamics (advantage Schiit), and other characteristics, but no hands-down winner emerges. Overall, they’re both superb, balanced DACs. Whereas the XSP emerged as the clear winner against the RME, the choice of XSP or Yggdrasil is more one of tradeoffs and individual taste.

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/matrix-x-sabre-pro-mqa-dac-review-r876/

Yokes are welcome. As usual the former CA has less credibility after any article is posted.
 

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The XSP, in contrast, seems to pull ever-so-slightly more detail out of some recordings than the Yggdrasil
At least this proves that details gets lost over that bushy HF from Yggdrasil.
 

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This gentleman thinks Shiit makes better

The Yggdrasil presents a significantly deeper soundstage than the XSP and an altogether more realistic timbre, though the Yggdrasil’s edge in the latter is much smaller than in the former. The XSP, in contrast, seems to pull ever-so-slightly more detail out of some recordings than the Yggdrasil. I’d hazard to stay that there are other differences between the Matrix and the Schiit when it comes to bass slam (advantage Schiit), left-to-right staging (advantage Matrix), macro-dynamics (advantage Schiit), and other characteristics, but no hands-down winner emerges. Overall, they’re both superb, balanced DACs. Whereas the XSP emerged as the clear winner against the RME, the choice of XSP or Yggdrasil is more one of tradeoffs and individual taste.

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/matrix-x-sabre-pro-mqa-dac-review-r876/

Yokes are welcome. As usual the former CA has less credibility after any article is posted.
What is your point? He pointed out the measurements done here on the Matrix DAC, said it basically measured perfectly and then gave a subjective impression. Even Amir does that in some reviews. He thought the Matrix was an excellent DAC.

He didn't say the Yggy was better. He said is some aspects it was, and in other aspects it wasn't.

Have you compared them? How do you know it isn't? You can't tell some detail like that from the the raw measurements. Lots of people don't hear the measured defects in the Yggy, or perhaps they subjectively like the sound of them. Big deal. BTW, there've been at least 4 other sites do measurements of the Yggy, and none of them replicated Amir's bad results - or at least not all of them. So maybe the DAC is better than you think and Amir's measurements are, for whatever reason, an outlier.

Have you heard a Yggy in a blind comparison? I bet you wouldn't hear those measured defects and pick the Yggy out, either.
 
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How does the Matrix MQAdac perform as pre/volume control? Any pros/cons compared to a high end analog preamplifier?
 
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Been on the fence between this DAC and just settling for less and getting the Element-I. I stream my music via tidal/spotify/qobuz/roon. Would the sabre-x mqa's DSD 512/1024 even be of use to me or would the Element-I's DSD256 be enough for my needs considering my music sources?
 

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Been on the fence between this DAC and just settling for less and getting the Element-I. I stream my music via tidal/spotify/qobuz/roon. Would the sabre-x mqa's DSD 512/1024 even be of use to me or would the Element-I's DSD256 be enough for my needs considering my music sources?
I have been in the same position as you. But in the end I chose the XSP mqa. An all in one device is nice, but I’d like to have some options in the future.
the XSP MQA has a better dac chip, better clocks and a proper PSU.

and I upsample everything to 512dsd with HQPlayer.
 

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Been on the fence between this DAC and just settling for less and getting the Element-I. I stream my music via tidal/spotify/qobuz/roon. Would the sabre-x mqa's DSD 512/1024 even be of use to me or would the Element-I's DSD256 be enough for my needs considering my music sources?
I got the Element i as a secondary DAC, wasn't considering the top of the line X.

The Element i is a fine DAC. If you mostly stream from the internet, there isn't much use for DSD 512, unless you plan on upsampling your incoming streams to 512 for playback. There aren't any DSD 512 files being streamed, or really any DSD at all. It's all PCM.
The other question here would be does the full unfold of MQA matter to you? If it does, get the X. If you are willing to make do with just the first software unfold, get the i.

As far as the power supply for the i, if you think it matters, you can upgrade the PS of the i for a relatively small amount from a third party supplier.
 

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