KEF Q Meta is Coming

[billou5767]

I’m wondering how the new Q series would pair with LS50 meta to complete a 7.1 (5.1.2) home theatre. Where would you use the LS50s. Any thoughts?

if its home theater your amp adjust speeker .. and movie dialogue or music are in general totally no realist and modified

 

[Vacceo]

Hi and welcome here. For the objectively best sound, I think the R3 m or R7 m option would be best, and with 4 subs this probably won't make very much difference, so I would chose the R3 m. But maybe you would be happier saving money and having towers with the Q7 m.
For long-term satisfaction I consider the R3 m very suitable, I only have them for a month (About the 5th time I mention this, but in this thread I repeatedly find a reason) and am very happy.
Night has begun here. See you later!

Peace

It´s something I have wondered for some time. Mr. Sigberg has a very clear answer for my musins, but I wonder; if Dirac will be applied to your speakers, is it really worth to add towers in the front while using subwoofers instead of saving the cost of those speakers and adding more subwoofers?

Perhaps with Dirac ART it may actually be beneficial to have more speakers that reach lower frequencies, but it´s something I´ll revisit once I can upgrade my current IQ set.

 

[billou5767]

there is not big difference of price between concerto and q7

 

[Rõlnnbacke]

It´s something I have wondered for some time. Mr. Sigberg has a very clear answer for my musins, but I wonder; if Dirac will be applied to your speakers, is it really worth to add towers in the front while using subwoofers instead of saving the cost of those speakers and adding more subwoofers?

Perhaps with Dirac ART it may actually be beneficial to have more speakers that reach lower frequencies, but it´s something I´ll revisit once I can upgrade my current IQ set.

(I don't know, but @jacktracks allready has 4 subs, asked about kef r7 vs r3, with a price difference of €2800(!) and he mentioned liking to save money... )
[Sorry if/where I state the obvious/write what you allready know/meant:] I guess it depends on a whole lot of things, but in any case you can buy 2 subs for (much) less then the price difference between bookshelves and towers of the same quality above the intended crossover point, that should be better, except for the environment/climate/long term power consumption cost. But yes it's mostly class-D. I made those letters bigger, because i've not once saw it mentioned here. Not often mentioned either is the option to use the main speakers full range and use the sub only (not even necessarily allways on) to complement/fill in. As long there is not too much distortion, you have partly the advantage off 3 bass sources [stereo with 1 sub, that then ('crawl determined') can be placed anywhere].

 

[mrcstl]

Really appreciate your posts, pictures, and comparisons. I am trying to decide between R3 Metas + R6 Meta, R7 Metas + R6 Meta, or possibly Q7 Metas + Q6. Only thing swaying me is I listened to Q950s and I really liked how they sounded. They had R11s and R3 Metas. I would have chosen the Q950s in a blind test scenario. This was at Best Buy so who knows haha. Any thoughts on which way you would go if you were me? Music is #1 priority for me. I would like to save some money on Q Meta series, but I can extend the budget up to the R7s if it really is worth it. I know there are many many other factors. I have 4 subwoofers in each corner of this room. I prefer how towers look but bookshelfs on stands is ok with me too. tia

I’m not a big advice-giver, but I’d be inclined to give what sounded best to you a chance, bonus that it’s cheaper. Best Buy has a good return policy.

Someone shopping for a sports car may prefer a Porsche Cayman to a 911 even though they could afford either. A lot of metrics may say they were picking the lower performer, but it’s personal preference. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Romario]

You can EQ all you want but the R series are better speakers than the Q series as mrcstl confirmed and I found out myself. You can't eq resolution/separation into a speaker. Nonetheless, you can enjoy them both.

 

[synthetic]

Looking forward to the white paper. Hoping these have wider dispersion than the R series because of the smaller mid-range driver.

 

[HeadDoc12]

In the past 4 years, KEF has has completely META-fied their entire product line (I never count the Muon, as it is just silly). As is usually the case, the benefits seem to be more pronounced in the more affordable lines (I personally still love my LS50WII setup, despite the risks). So, assuming the Q speakers measure extremely well for their price class, what comes next? My hope would be for an LS65 or something, that uses the larger Uni-Q driver and a somewhat larger cabinet and more powerful amps, to get closer to true full-range, and more SPL, of course. Might as well throw in DIRAC or something equivalent, while we’re at it. And a phono preamp…?

 

[billou5767]

meta is just a sticker on back of q12 uniq

its not stargate techno

 

[Matias]

A shame Erin has only the smaller bookshelf Q3 reviewed and not the larger Concerto. A few more days until it is released for all other than his Patreons.

 

[billou5767]

A shame Erin has only the smaller bookshelf Q3 reviewed and not the larger Concerto. A few more days until it is released for all other than his Patreons.

quick

and in teaser what bad for him ?

 

[Vacceo]

In the past 4 years, KEF has has completely META-fied their entire product line (I never count the Muon, as it is just silly). As is usually the case, the benefits seem to be more pronounced in the more affordable lines (I personally still love my LS50WII setup, despite the risks). So, assuming the Q speakers measure extremely well for their price class, what comes next? My hope would be for an LS65 or something, that uses the larger Uni-Q driver and a somewhat larger cabinet and more powerful amps, to get closer to true full-range, and more SPL, of course. Might as well throw in DIRAC or something equivalent, while we’re at it. And a phono preamp…?

Eventually, metamaterial will reach the LSX line, which currently uses an older UniQ and no metamaterial.

 

[HeadDoc12]

Eventually, metamaterial will reach the LSX line, which currently uses an older UniQ and no metamaterial.

Good point. So we’ll get an LSX 3 or something. But it’s not like the entire KEF engineering team is working on that, so I will continue to speculate wildly, to no one’s benefit…

 

[mrcstl]

Had a few drinks tonight but finally had some downtime and pretty sure I did this right in REW trace arithmetic. My Q Concerto Meta in-room response vs R3 Meta control.

 

[thewas]

Had a few drinks tonight but finally had some downtime and pretty sure I did this right in REW trace arithmetic. My Q Concerto Meta in-room response vs R3 Meta control.
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The more elevated highs at the LP measurement possibly confirm the wider radiation of the smaller Uni-Q (unless they tuned it on-axis rising which I doubt at KEF), changing something that was criticised by some listeners in the past.

 

[Vacceo]

Good point. So we’ll get an LSX 3 or something. But it’s not like the entire KEF engineering team is working on that, so I will continue to speculate wildly, to no one’s benefit…

If metamaterial and Gen 12th UniQ have made it to the entry leven speakers from KEF, it´s possible there will be an LSX 3 that includes both.

The current LSX II uses a Gen 11th UniQ and no metamaterial out of price contention (I think) to prevent the cost from scaling too much. Perhaps KEF has managed to get both and not increase the price of the LSX much more.

Still, just like your previous post, I´d love to see an active set of LS´s with multichannel decoding and Dirac. That said, a center, a pair of LS60´s, LS50´s as sides/rears and LSX as height sounds to me as an awesome proposition.

 

[Ktacos]

The more elevated highs at the LP measurement possibly confirm the wider radiation of the smaller Uni-Q (unless they tuned it on-axis rising which I doubt at KEF), changing something that was criticised by some listeners in the past.

kef loves to add hf boost to their lower cost models.

 

[billou5767]

If metamaterial and Gen 12th UniQ have made it to the entry leven speakers from KEF, it´s possible there will be an LSX 3 that includes both.

The current LSX II uses a Gen 11th UniQ and no metamaterial out of price contention (I think) to prevent the cost from scaling too much. Perhaps KEF has managed to get both and not increase the price of the LSX much more.

Still, just like your previous post, I´d love to see an active set of LS´s with multichannel decoding and Dirac. That said, a center, a pair of LS60´s, LS50´s as sides/rears and LSX as height sounds to me as an awesome proposition.

you think its extra materiel from space ? its 5£ disk

lsx failed a lot cheap electronic

 

[Rõlnnbacke]

you think its extra materiel from space ? its 5£ disk

Yes, great, isn't it? as good as perfect damping, takes little precious room in cabinet and probably cheap.

 

[billou5767]

Yes, great, isn't it? as good as perfect damping, takes little precious room in cabinet and probably cheap.