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Gustard X16 Balanced MQA DAC Review

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How? If it is with measurements, you have everything you need on this website.
I don't know. Maybe two friends that has bought the two dacs or someone that listened them in a shop.
Measurements tell me of the good construction and good project, but they didn't tell me if a chip is better than another.

On the paper es9028q2m has less quality of es9038pro. ES9068as is the evolution of es9028q2m, but it is better than es9038pro?

I think that everyone that want to buy a new dac and spend 400/550€ has the same thoughts.
I just asked...
 

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I don't know. Maybe two friends that has bought the two dacs or someone that listened them in a shop.
Measurements tell me of the good construction and good project, but they didn't tell me if a chip is better than another.

On the paper es9028q2m has less quality of es9038pro. ES9068as is the evolution of es9028q2m, but it is better than es9038pro?

I think that everyone that want to buy a new dac and spend 400/550€ has the same thoughts.
I just asked...
Not sure.

For my part, I am pretty sure plenty of people on this forum consider the difference are measurable but could not be heard.
 

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I'm wondering if any manufacturer be implementing the ES9068as with MQA feature disabled? Or is licensing fee built into the cost of the chip?
 
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Not sure.

For my part, I am pretty sure plenty of people on this forum consider the difference are measurable but could not be heard.
I could be wrong, but I think that if someone don't ear differences between the best dac chip and the cheap one of any brand, maybe he/she has to change his/her amplifier and/or speaker.
Why buy the sabre dual es9038pro (any brand) at about 1000$ or € when you have the same performance of a single es9028 at 1/10 of the price?
 

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I could be wrong, but I think that if someone don't ear differences between the best dac chip and the cheap one of any brand, maybe he/she has to change his/her amplifier and/or speaker.
Why buy the sabre dual es9038pro (any brand) at about 1000$ or € when you have the same performance of a single es9028 at 1/10 of the price?
Spend one week to read the forum and you will have your answer. For my part, I am tired enough to read the same things since 40 years.
 

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Did you measure the RCA output at max volume/voltage? I’m assuming you lower the volume to achieve a consistent benchmark standard between all your reviews.

Did the SINAD suffer or improve at max volume? What would you recommend to someone who would use this DAC with the RCA outputs?
Well then, the balanced output would have been 4.0V or as close as the electronic dB attenuation adjustment within the DAC would allow. Pretty sure he always tests at max. As it is a common thing to read [or see in the graphic] in these reviews if a DAC cant achieve 2V unbalanced, 4V balanced, or exceeds it.
 
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Well then, the balanced output would have been 4.0V or as close as the electronic dB attenuation adjustment within the DAC would allow. Pretty sure he always tests at max. As it is a common thing to read [or see in the graphic] in these reviews if a DAC cant achieve 2V unbalanced, 4V balanced, or exceeds it.
He says max for RCA is 3.3mv. I was interested about the SINAD measurings at this volume because a lot of people would push the volume to 0db instead of -04 (2.0mv) that he's measuring.
 

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He says max for RCA is 3.3mv. I was interested about the SINAD measurings at this volume because a lot of people would push the volume to 0db instead of -04 (2.0mv) that he's measuring.
Well, dont mixup mV with Vrms. Very different. Note that the SINAD graphic is using Vrms.

2.104 Vrms doesnt yield exactly 3.3Vp [peak] so not sure of that designator on the SINAD graphic. But I'm sure a Vrms to Vpeak conversion with some relational factor is behind this. I'll wait for him to provide insight.
 
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Just purchased the new x16 Dac, i can’t wait....also enjoying some new 12ax7 tubes,

FYI I purchased 3 pair

JJ high gain ECC803S $47.00 a pair
GENALAX ECC83 gold lions $85.00 pair
Tube Amp Doctor 7025s Premium Select $80.00 pair.

Only had for a few days ...but save some time and money, hands down the Gold lions are wonderful. I am not a interconnect or wire guy so I was skeptical on how much difference I would hear. But I would say 15 % improvement in bass, lushness without being too warm and a wow on sound stage clarity. These are all new tubes, but after this I would someday try well recommended new old stock NOS tubes.

i will burn in the other 2 pair and hope for the best. But the JJ’s are nice and neutral and the TAD are a bit bright.

Happy Thanksgiving
 

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@SHENZHENAUDIO Any information about availability? I've ordered last week, do you think it will be in Europe for Xmas?
Hello, friend. We really appreciate your support, really apologize for this delay, we made a statement on our page as to the delay concerned. Pls check it out here: https://shenzhenaudio.com/blogs/news/announcements-for-gustard-dac-x16, if there is any problem, we warmly welcome you to consult us! We'd love to provide any service to you guys.
 

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