What is up with the poor CSD below 500Hz?
This is very high as usually long resonances are seen below 100Hz around bass reflex tuning frequency.
I'd be curious to see the same measurement but with one bass slot closed.
Interesting that subjectively bass was not good while THD still looked decent.
Interesting that subjectively bass was not good while THD still looked decent.
How do they compare to the Kii three and 8C from?Excellent review as always Amir, coincidentally I have a pair here and they are superb, but I think you have to sit pretty close for an immersive sound.
Off to hear the W371’s this week, I will ask about ‘critical’ listening distances for the combination.
Keith
Reserved.
It looks like you scaled down the image by quite a bit to save bandwidth.I reset the speaker to factory settings and left all the dip switches off as you see.
Amir hit me with a sneak attack, usually he sends it to me a few hours ahead; I was sleeping and just woke up (5am my time).Lagged?
2nd place without sub (loss to D&D 8C, mainly for bass), 3-way tie for 2nd-4th place with sub (8030C is top place; D&D not in top 10).SCORE: 7.1
SCORE w/ sub: 8.4
WOW!!Preference Rating
SCORE: 7.1
SCORE w/ sub: 8.4
Frequency response: +/-2.7dB 38Hz-20kHz (spec: +/-1.5dB)
Genelec Sound Power DI is 5dB at 800Hz and 8dB at 10kHz.The Salon 2 quickly showed its difference in taller image that was not so focused and centered as the Genelec. This of course could be an optical illusion of the Genelec pulling your eye toward its tweeter. Still, I stand by this observation.
Gotta show the 8361A, too:@amirm Nice review, thank you! Especially the comparison with Salon 2.
I have one wish, though.. For this level of speakers (perfect tonality) I would really like to see IMD and compression measurements at loudish and loud spl just so that we can zoom into other factors that separates speakers at the highest levels.
We don't need those measurements when the tonality isn't near perfect and/or when the speakers show massive distortion at 96 dB, but I think we would benefit from it when we look into perfect small speaker vs perfect bigger speaker - or even two perfect small speakers that for some reason sounds different.
One question; Sound & Recording has a different approach to IMD distortion than a set SPL. They just increase the speaker level until the distortion reaches -30 dB and then registers the IMD.
That way we as users get a reference point as to how loud the speaker is comfortable playing. Is that something you could look into or is it too much of a hassle?
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For large speakers such as the JBL M2 you'll hate your life. 91 dB Leq is an error, should read 94 dB. 94 Leq/106 dB peak measured at 8 meters before distortion reached the -30 dB with the noise crest factor at 12 dB translates to 112 dB Leq/124 dB peak at 1 meter if I'm not mistaken.
The reason I'm asking is because this type of graf shows us the spl output needed to reach a defined limit without harming the speakers and is easier to read the IMD vs frequency compared to the one usually shown.
Maybe in the fall.
Comparing that to the M2 we see that the M2 has significantly lower IMD below 1 kHz even when played 8 dB louder than 8361.Gotta show the 8361A, too: