Dynaudio Emit 20 - Review & Measurements by Erin

[VintageFlanker]

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Dynaudio Emit 20 Speaker Review

Dynaudio Emit 20 Speaker Review

www.erinsaudiocorner.com

 

[dfuller]

Again with that compliance issue around 1KHz and truly wacky frequency response. What on earth is going on there?

 

[moonlight rainbow dream]

I've specifically said before that there is a point where sheer bass extension, bass output, and dynamic capability/distortion performance can overcome gross errors in frequency response and directivity performance, but I still don't like this at all. I wasn't thinking of a basic 2-way bookshelf when I made that statement.

 

[Grotti]

Again with that compliance issue around 1KHz and truly wacky frequency response. What on earth is going on there?

What is going on here seems to be a 6 dB filter for the tweeter at 4 kHz and a 7inch woofer with a 12 dB filter, that has to work way above the point of beaming. Including an enclosure, which seem to ring and rattle a bit (so a German online magazine states: I haven't heard the speaker yet)....

 

[Rednaxela]

How hard is it for a company like Dynaudio to produce something that is reasonably 2023 textbook?

 

[Matt_Holland]

Very impressive distortion levels in the LF. Everything else turns me off though.

 

[MachOne]

The small Dynaudios seem to excel at being punchy for their size. I had a set of the much older budget model DM 2/6 that went surprisingly loud. They had almost the same Dynaudio house curve as in this review, with that upper treble lift. For me it was a bit much after a while, but most "normal" people enjoy that slightly brighter vibe.

 

[VintageFlanker]

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Dynaudio Emit 20 Speaker Review

Dynaudio Emit 20 Speaker Review

www.erinsaudiocorner.com

 

[thewas]

He just tested also the Emit 30 floorstanders:

 

[tw 2022]

He just tested also the Emit 30 floorstanders:

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Eerily similar pir to the books, it's like they tried to perfect mediocre....

 

[dfuller]

Dynaudio has this weird fascination with first order tweeter slopes. I haven't the foggiest why, but here we are.

 

[RoA]

How hard is it for a company like Dynaudio to produce something that is reasonably 2023 textbook?

They could easily do that. Most speaker manufacturers could but sometimes they a/don't want to take sales away from higher lines in their portfolio or b/ they deliberately voice speakers on what they believe target audiences want in that price range. Then there is the other problem, Dynaudio use decent drivers but probably economise too much in other areas, including cabinets.

 

[thewas]

Dynaudio has this weird fascination with first order tweeter slopes. I haven't the foggiest why, but here we are.

From what I have read that era is long gone, thankfully, most are nowadays of higher electrical order. By the way even at the times their crossovers were of first electrical order the total slopes of the drivers and crossovers (which had also many additional correction elements) which in the end is what counts (like for example if you want to claim optimal phase addition) were never really first order, such are very rare on decent loudspeakers as they would have too high drawbacks.

 

[Penelinfi]

From what I have read that era is long gone, thankfully, most are nowadays of higher electrical order. By the way even at the times their crossovers were of first electrical order the total slopes of the drivers and crossovers (which had also many additional correction elements) which in the end is what counts (like for example if you want to claim optimal phase addition) were never really first order, such are very rare on decent loudspeakers as they would have too high drawbacks.

Bom bom matey, bom bom

• Dynaudio Emit 50 are floorstanding, bass reflex, three-way, four driver loudspeakers
• Heavy, solid build: each weighs more than 25kg
• 1,170mm tall on included feet and spikes on my carpeted floor, 204mm wide in the body and 322mm deep, including grille
• Footprint (due to angled legs) 302mm wide by 376mm deep
• Spikes, rubber feet and metal plates for spikes included
• Two bass reflex ports, foam bungs for tuning included
• 28mm “Cerotar” soft-dome tweeter with Hexis inner dome. Borrowed from higher-level Evoke series
• 150mm magnesium silicate polymer midrange with 38mm aluminium voice coil
• 2 x 180mm magnesium silicate polymer cone woofers with copper voice coils
• Hybrid crossover, 1st order to tweeter, 2nd order to midrange and 4th order to woofers
• Crossover frequencies at 540 and 4400 hertz
• 33-25,000 hertz ±3dB frequency response; -6dB @ 28 and 35,000 hertz
• 4 ohms nominal impedance

Edit : not sure if just the entry level remains that uses it. They don't seem to boast about 1st order in some other models

 

[thewas]

2nd order to midrange and 4th order to woofers

They don't seem to boast about 1st order in some other models

They don't as they just use them for the tweeter (and only in some models), by the B&W also currently does so in the last years, see exemplary their current flagship:

Kerr said the woofers are fed from a third-order low-pass filter at 400Hz, and there's a second-order high-pass at 400Hz into the midrange driver. The higher-frequency crossover consists of a second-order low-pass to the midrange and a first-order high-pass to the tweeter, both at 4kHz.

Source: https://www.stereophile.com/content/bowers-wilkins-801-d4-signature-loudspeaker

 

[Penelinfi]

I guess I was referencing this :


dfuller said:
Dynaudio has this weird fascination with first order tweeter slopes. I haven't the foggiest why, but here we are.
From what I have read that era is long

 

[dfuller]

From what I have read that era is long gone, thankfully, most are nowadays of higher electrical order. By the way even at the times their crossovers were of first electrical order the total slopes of the drivers and crossovers (which had also many additional correction elements) which in the end is what counts (like for example if you want to claim optimal phase addition) were never really first order, such are very rare on decent loudspeakers as they would have too high drawbacks.

Well, this is the Emit 30...

So, in other words, what's going on with this screwy upper presence to treble region is the drivers interfering with one another, the woofers playing entirely too high (they're only 12dB down at 7k!), and the tweeter with significant energy down quite low (12dB down at 900hz!)

 

[tw 2022]

Well, this is the Emit 30...

View attachment 410171


So, in other words, what's going on with this screwy upper presence to treble region is the drivers interfering with one another, the woofers playing entirely too high (they're only 12dB down at 7k!), and the tweeter with significant energy down quite low (12dB down at 900hz!)

i'm a semi - noob at audio theory, what this tells me is that nulls and peaks are created by improper integration?..

 

[dfuller]

i'm a semi - noob at audio theory, what this tells me is that nulls and peaks are created by improper integration?..

Some of them are, yes. Shallow crossover slopes mean the drivers play more in the ranges of one another.

 

[Ktacos]

I don't get why this brand does so well, everything I see from them just looks sub par but they seem to have a dedicated audience. They certainly have the ability to make great speakers but they just choose not to.